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Yes, the rest of the story! As Paul Harvey would say! I had original mechanic come out to replace my gasket on Lift Pump. He did that then spent 4 hours trying to get it started. He had a computer but not with Cummins Insight. After, checking each injector for fuel while trying to start engine, he determined it was the fuel pump. I Got a reman pump, he installed it and it was still doing the same thing. So, I explained to him I was not mad because, he did work hard installing the new pump. He is a great physical mechanic, but I needed him to get someone out to run diagnostics on my rig and be able to trouble shoot and run test. I told him I would be the nicest pissed off guy he ever met. He referred me to another mobile mechanic. He left (I had not paid him any money for both days yet) and I have not heard from him since. Other mechanics I have talked to said they would be responsible for labor and parts if they had done that! I did not want all that as I do have a new pump. I felt he should have said not to worry about labor, but he never called so that is the same to me. My new mobile guy never even opened the engine bay. He sat in my driver seat and ran his computer for about 45 mins. Cleared the codes and tried to reload ECM specs. Tried to start and it did for about 30 secs, then the codes popped back up and shut it down again. That confirmed to him the codes and the way it was acting that ECM was bad. IT was a 20 year old ECM and he said everything electronics will eventually go bad. He installed the new ECM and it never sounded so good. HE said it was the ECM all along based on active codes!!!! When I drove 200 miles and it shut down again, I was sick. To find out the plug to the fuel pump ICV was not snaped back in place is frustrating. I looked at that plug, it appeared to be plugged in. I did not want to unplug and replug it because as I said it look right to me a Novis person. But that was all it was. Once I got it towed to my guy, he was able to run the click test through the computer and fix the plug. He also was able to put a new oil pressure senor in for me and recalibrate it on my ECM.. I have no engine lights on my dash now which is comforting. He told me I should be good for a while. I have learned so much through this process it is crazy 1) Don't take no for an answer from your insurance company! I had to push through to get them to get me towed (120 Miles). I live in my RV so I was pretty adamant 2) Do not ever let a mechanic touch your RV without a Computer and if you have a Cummins it has to have Insight! 3) If you have a gut feeling, listen to your gut- this goes for food too!! 4) You have little negotiating power with half of your motorhome sitting in the middle of the road! $1000 for three mile tow to truck stop 5) You need to carry at least $5000 cash in your coach to settle crap as it happens. They will give you breaks in their charges if you have cash. 6) Do not let a mechanic throw parts at something. Make it clear if they run the computer and it does not work they could be liable! MAKE SURE THEY CHECK AND RECHECK EACH CONNECTION!! 7) We always travel during daylight hours, but this time when we got it fixed it was 1 pm in afternoon and we needed to exit the park. We planned to drive until 5:30 pm and stop. So I broke down in daylight but 45 mins later it was DARK. DST kicked in that weekend did not help! Our rule which I broke was 3:30 rule -- drive 330 miles a day and stop by 3:30 pm each day! We have been driving from about 6:30 am to 1:30 for the last couple years. But I screwed that up. 😎 Plan you route before you go. Know your stops, fuel stops and have a break down plan. I have a couple apps on my phone that show different services. My best luck has come from asking local shops in the area who was the best. 9) Make sure you have someone local that knows your rig that you can text or call as a second opinion when things are going down. My home mechanic was a life savior. 10) Finally, My stress level broke the meter several times through this process. I am a man of Faith and I cried out to the Lord many times to teach me through this and not allow me to be THAT GUY who blows his top. I was able to stay calm but my gut was tore up! A ECM replacement should have cost me around around $2300! I spent $6800 plus a $1000 for first tow or $7800 (I may eat the first tow as I dont want to abuse or cause Progressive to cancel me-I am not sure about that yet. Progressive tow bill had to be at least $2000 plus for 120 miles Total cost of this thread and RV was $9800 on a $2300 job. BEST ADVICE AWARD GOES TO MY WIFE She asked me Tom do we have the money to fix this. I said YES she said Can the RV be fixed I said YES and she said then lets stop fretting about. Count our blessings and move on. Now when we was in the middle of the road! I had to assure HER That we were all good!! SORRY for the ramble and I am moving on. Leaving Tuesday from GA to head to west Texas for Thanksgiving with family!! Thanks for all!!

I know right and they were handles not the small stuff!

Final Verdict: Talked Progressive Insurance into towing me 120 miles to my mechanic in Douglasville, GA last night. Backed in at midnight and slept there last night! My mechanic sent two guys to my RV at 9:30 am put their computer to work because I got a new code #277, which is still the Injector Control Valve. They set the Cummins insight program to do a click test to the ICV. Nothing, they then start shaking the wires and it start to click. Then one of the guys said the plug was not plugged in and snap locked, he pushed it in tight and bam I was running. I had an oil pressure senor bad they replaced it and cleared codes and made sure my ECM was up to date. Three hours later $347 bucks charged I was fixed. I gave out three bottles of MM bourbon to Jeremy and the guys, paid $400 cash, gave them hugs and left. Side Bar: my Mechanic Jeremy took every call and answered every text over the last 6-7 days. Everyone needs someone they can count on for guidance. Besides Jeremy I look on here often for ways to move forward. Thanks to all! If you ever in west Georgia call: Silver Streak Equipment Services and talk to Jeremy! Phone # 678-401-6784 Douglasville, GA

I am getting ready to put my coveralls on and start meddling. I also have a call into United Turbo and Fuel for guidance. I dont really want to do alot to it since it is under warranty

OK UPDATE: I still need guidance! We fixed the leaky lift pump and engine would still not start! I had a mobile mechanic that came by reference to the park to check it out. He spent a great deal of time trying to get it started to no luck. Told me it was the CAPS FUEL PUMP. My wife and I drove to Birmingham, AL to pick up a reman Pump from United Fuel and Turbo. Brought it back and the mechanic put it on and guess what it still did not start. This mobile mechanic was a hard worker and did a physically good job but did not have Cummins insight on his code reader. My mechanic back home told me to get someone in there that had a computer. So I had that mechanic find another mobile mechanic We had Southern Commerical Diesel out of Crestview, FL come out ran the computer and came up with code #111 BAD ECM. He saved my info on his computer and we emailed it to an ECM reman shop and they overnighted back to us a new reman with my specs preloaded! Yesterday the mechanic came and installed it and the engine fired right up. We left Destin and drove north for about four hours and 200 miles no issues ran perfect. We went to make a turn off a two lane and it died. I had to get it towed to a truck stop in Tuskegee AL which is where i am sitting. I had a mobile guy come out last night and verified my rv diagnostics and code #493 Fault Code: 493 Injection Control Valve Identifier Circuit he told me to call the Pump reman people in am and get tier advice? Do any of you guys have any thoughts? I am $4000 into a new pump, first mechanic did not hit me up for labor I am $2300 into a new ECM I am $1000 into a tow I have a mobile mechanic here that charges $95 an hour plus $95 service call So another $300

I found a MOM and POP shop that has been in business 40 years United Turbo and Fuel in Birmingham, AL. They have a rebuild pump that I will be picking up tomorrow!! #4076441 and the supressor #3944110.. fair rate under $4000 with a core charge!! I pray this is the fix!

your words are exactly what my mechanic said and what I have researched. I have come to peace with the cost of part and he is going to charge me a flat rate to install. I just worry about whats comes after that if it dont start.. I know Quit worrying lol thanks for input

I hear you Ken! I have not been off the computer since last Wednesday. Seems like my set up to this is not out of the norm. I watch him check and saw plenty of fuel coming out of a couple injectors but not the others! I have had NO issues with my engine for 7 years.. so I count that pretty lucky! I will do a Fass install as soon as I can get running again! Comments are WELCOME it is lonley broke down!! lol

Ken, couple questions: Will fault code shut down the Capps system? My pump had been leaking for about a year with small drips, this time it was more of a consistent drip. Mechanic Spent all day here yesterday fixing the lift pump and trying to purge all the air out of the system. The lift pump is working and both of my filters are full. Mechanic went to the point where he unscrewed fuel supply lines to each injector. He said a couple of them had plenty of fuel coming out and several others barley had fuel coming out. We cycled the engine on and off a thousand times had to put external battery boost and still no luck. I had a red warning light on dash and his computer diagnosis pointed back to Capps Pump. Am I missing anything? I had black a couple times and tried to run for about three seconds and it would just shut down. Mechanic said the computer was probably picking up the fact it was not pumping enough fuel? After many attempts to start the engine we finally was getting nothing! He will come to me and install, how many hours did it take to install? do you have the part number for yours? ISC 8.3 Cummins i see some on line in the $3k range with the supressor

HELP My mobile mechanic came out today and replaced the lift pump gasket and we stopped the leak! We then tried to start the coach and it continued to sputter and choke out after 3-6 seconds. So, after many attempts to start the engine with the mechanic unscrewing each injector to get rid of air and see if fuel was coming out, it would not run. He put his computer on the engine and it threw codes pointing to the Capps fuel pump system? My mechanic thinks my Capps fuel pump is bad! He said that a couple of injectors were producing a lot of fuel but 1-4 was barley coming out. Wants me to order a new Capps pump and he will install here where I am stuck at the State Park volunteer park. Doe's anyone have any thought on this or a source for securing the pump? Cummins 350 ISC 2003

Thank You Sir!!

My Engine serial number required the original type gasket 4928511. found a guy out of TX on Ebay to send me one. I found a diagram of both the old gasket and the new gasket (4928512) in a IRV2 feed. I am thinking since it was running like a champ when I shut it down that the CAPPS pump is still ok? I truly think since I sat here for 3 months that the leak may have allowed air to seep into system and allowed the fuel feeding the pump to drain back in the tank. Thats what I am hoping. I have learned more in three days about the fuel system than I cared too. But I am guessing, so I am trusting the mechanic I have coming this way will have a scanner. Plus it will be money well spent. if he gets me going and teachings me a few tricks as well. Breakdowns are no fun, but at least I am in a volunteer spot here at the park and not on side of road! God is Good!!

Words of wisdom and thoughts Cub- Thank You. I can tell you when you have breakdown issues. this site and IRV2 sites are like having friends standing around trying to help! Make a nervous fellow feel good!! I have laid in bed the last two night trying to put together a plan. I have got a new gasket going to be here tomorrow, found the exact gasket for pump I have already had my hands on the lift pump cleaning it and trying to stop the leak. The bolts have been backed off and tighten so It will be fairly easy to take off.. My plan is to do that tomorrow when the gasket arrives. I am hoping to do the air purge like you guys suggested from the tank and loosen the filter in the back while running the lift pump? I have a mechanic scheduled to be here Monday whose is familiar with my engine and lift pump. I have also copied and pasted the CAPPS Fuel pump link on EBAY if I have REAL Issues. I am heading to Atlanta where I have a solid mechanic, who will install either FASS or AIRDOG hopefully in next two weeks. thats the current plan. I will keep you posted through the process.

I have got a new gasket going to be here tomorrow I am going to install and pray that it starts. I am heading to Atlanta where I have a solid mechanic, who will install my fass system hopefully in next two weeks. thats the current plan. I will keep you posted.

any tricks on how to lossen or tighten?