CLIFF918 Posted December 12, 2021 Share Posted December 12, 2021 I am fairly new to this but have a question. I have a 2002 Monaco Diplomat, the air dump switch only seems to work with the ignition in the on position. That being said when I operate the switch the air purges very slowly. In other words you would have to hold down the switch for 10 min to completely dump the system. Is this normal? And should I even worry about it. This is a new to me Monaco Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDCrow Posted December 12, 2021 Share Posted December 12, 2021 12 minutes ago, CLIFF918 said: I am fairly new to this but have a question. I have a 2002 Monaco Diplomat, the air dump switch only seems to work with the ignition in the on position. That being said when I operate the switch the air purges very slowly. In other words you would have to hold down the switch for 10 min to completely dump the system. Is this normal? And should I even worry about it. This is a new to me Monaco Same coach, I’ve never been able to get mine to dump Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
klcdenver Posted December 12, 2021 Share Posted December 12, 2021 That is normal. Just put a wedge under the switch until it finishes dumping. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick A Posted December 12, 2021 Share Posted December 12, 2021 That seams to a design issue? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jegall Posted December 12, 2021 Share Posted December 12, 2021 2003 Imperial dumps in about 90 seconds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobdinsmore Posted December 12, 2021 Share Posted December 12, 2021 I pump the air brake pedal to dump the air Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary M Posted December 12, 2021 Share Posted December 12, 2021 (edited) My manual says pump the brakes along with using the dump button. But I would like mine to dump faster also without pumping the brakes. A 2006 Dynasty was pulling behind me and his dumped without pumping brakes and only too less than 30 seconds. He said it’s always been like that. Edited December 12, 2021 by Gary M Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cbr046 Posted December 13, 2021 Share Posted December 13, 2021 I dump mine down to about 40 psi. That seems to be the point where the suspension stops getting lower. And yes, it takes a while but I've never timed it. 2003 HR Endeavor - bob Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keith Richards Posted December 13, 2021 Share Posted December 13, 2021 (edited) On our 2001 Beaver Patriot, key in run position with motor off takes between 60-90 seconds as I dump to 40-50 as well, Just re-graveled the area by our house so it sits nice low and level. Edited December 13, 2021 by Keith Richards Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scotty Hutto Posted December 13, 2021 Share Posted December 13, 2021 Cliff, at the risk of sounding too,simple, check the dump valve exhaust ports for dirt daubers or other obstructions. My 2006 Dip won’t dump in 90 seconds, but it does dump completely on about 2-3 min. And yes, I lived with slow dumping for about two years before I cleaned out those ports. 🤦🏻♂️ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harvey Babb Posted December 13, 2021 Share Posted December 13, 2021 On my 2000 HR Endeavour the dump opens when I hit the button with key "on". Turning the key off while the button is held results in the dump STAYING open. It takes about a minute to fully dump, but only seconds to lock the dump open using this sequence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin R Posted December 13, 2021 Share Posted December 13, 2021 My 1998 is the same doesn't bother me a bit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frankogrly Posted December 13, 2021 Share Posted December 13, 2021 It is my understanding this design is intentionally. In case the dump valve stick's open the compressor could still provide adequate air pressure for the system. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ok-rver Posted December 13, 2021 Share Posted December 13, 2021 2004 Scepter - single dump valve in front, one each side rear. I dump when in accessory ignition position. Not sure if they dump when powered, my preference would be to not dump when the key is on. All the air in both tanks is flowing thru 1/4" airlines to the height control valve and then to the dump solenoids. If I am in a hurry, I open the manual dump valves on the tanks. Applying brakes as suggested would also lower the tank pressure quicker. The fitting on the upper port of the valves in the picture has a built in screen as others have said to keep stuff out of the valve. I would suggest removing the fittings and dumping system to see if that speeds up the process. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StellaTariche Posted December 13, 2021 Share Posted December 13, 2021 I have a 2000 Diplomat that also drains the air sloooooooowly when the dash button is pressed. ACC power must be on (seems like a good safety feature, right?) Shortcut: While holding the dash button with my right hand (which seems to drain one of the the two air tanks, I use my left hand to PARTIALLY depress the parking brake (big metal knob) on the rear left. I can drain it to 0 PSI in about 90 seconds. Pressing the floor brake pedal can speed it up even more, although you'll scare the neighbors :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomgagne55 Posted December 13, 2021 Share Posted December 13, 2021 23 hours ago, CLIFF918 said: I am fairly new to this but have a question. I have a 2002 Monaco Diplomat, the air dump switch only seems to work with the ignition in the on position. That being said when I operate the switch the air purges very slowly. In other words you would have to hold down the switch for 10 min to completely dump the system. Is this normal? And should I even worry about it. This is a new to me Monaco Same coach, same function (slow) although mine will dump with the key to the ACC position which is one step counter clockwise fro off. That way I can dump air without the low air beeping. I pump the brakes down to 40 then I hold the dump air until the bags deflate. The coach creeks as it settles on the frame. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waterskier_1 Posted December 13, 2021 Share Posted December 13, 2021 You don't say which system you have. I don't know what your 2002 Dip has. On my 2005 Exec I have HWH Air Leveling (and HWH Hydraulic Jacks) and if I use the dump switch on the Air control panel, it will dump the air until the coach stops moving (down) in less than 30 seconds. I never looked at the air pressure gauges, seems inmaterial to me what they might show. Maybe the Power Gear (I think that is the other Air system that Monaco used) has different dump valves. But I think David has the best advice in checking to see if the dump valves are partially plugged or otherwise restricting the airflow. -Rick N. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frankogrly Posted December 14, 2021 Share Posted December 14, 2021 I have an 01 Endeavor with manual air dump. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmer Posted December 14, 2021 Share Posted December 14, 2021 6 hours ago, waterskier_1 said: You don't say which system you have. I don't know what your 2002 Dip has. On my 2005 Exec I have HWH Air Leveling (and HWH Hydraulic Jacks) and if I use the dump switch on the Air control panel, it will dump the air until the coach stops moving (down) in less than 30 seconds. I never looked at the air pressure gauges, seems inmaterial to me what they might show. Maybe the Power Gear (I think that is the other Air system that Monaco used) has different dump valves. But I think David has the best advice in checking to see if the dump valves are partially plugged or otherwise restricting the airflow. -Rick N. About the same for me in my 03 Windsor with HWH air leveling and key off. Friend of mine has same model year with hydraulic leveling only and his dump is slow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CLIFF918 Posted December 14, 2021 Author Share Posted December 14, 2021 All, Thanks for the tips I just don't like things that do not work as they should or as I think they should. The general consensus is that this is normal for this year coach so KLCDENVER the wedge under the switch wins and does not involve me crawling under this beast. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
isptbart Posted December 15, 2021 Share Posted December 15, 2021 On 12/12/2021 at 10:01 PM, Scotty Hutto said: Cliff, at the risk of sounding too,simple, check the dump valve exhaust ports for dirt daubers or other obstructions. My 2006 Dip won’t dump in 90 seconds, but it does dump completely on about 2-3 min. And yes, I lived with slow dumping for about two years before I cleaned out those ports. 🤦🏻♂️ Where are the dump valve exhaust ports actually located? TKS! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scotty Hutto Posted December 15, 2021 Share Posted December 15, 2021 2 hours ago, isptbart said: Where are the dump valve exhaust ports actually located? TKS! I’ll climb under and take pics tomorrow… Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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