Ted Carbonaro Posted February 4, 2022 Share Posted February 4, 2022 The Temp gauge on my (new to me) 06 Monaco Camelot with Cummings LSI400 has no numbers to read actual temperature. The gauge has; C, H and the two lines that I assumed would be the operating range. So far I have only one 50 mile trip to move the coach to storage. The 50 mile trip had minimal hills and I wasn't towing. The outside ambient temp that day was in the high 20's and I expected the gauge to read in the middle or towards the cold side, but it hovered around the line closest to the HOT side. I believe that the typical operating range should be around 185-205. Can anyone tell me what that should equate to on the gauge with no numbers? Is it typical for that gauge to read so high in cold weather? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eyeball Posted February 4, 2022 Share Posted February 4, 2022 2006hr endeavor 40pdq. My Guage is always at the hot mark. I have not numbers also. That is why I'm thinking about getting a bluefire. Following Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott 61 Posted February 4, 2022 Share Posted February 4, 2022 Do you have an aladdin system if so you should be able to monitor your engine gauges Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Idoc57 Posted February 4, 2022 Share Posted February 4, 2022 Ted, my 2006 Cayman has the same gauge and it drove me nuts when I first got it. It ran right up to the high mark of what I would call the "normal running range" and it would stay right there. I put in a new Cummins 190 degree thermostat---no change. Changed out the coolant temperature sending unit---no change. Did a very thorough cleaning of the radiator and CAC---no change! On the last test run I decided to stop at a local diesel mechanic's shop and ask him to hook up his computer to my engine and tell me just how "hot" I was actually running. It was a hot Texas day. He said "Its perfect, 187 degrees". I couldn't believe it, but there it was on his fancy, high-dollar computer! I went out and bought a Scan Gauge D, hooked it up and sure enough it read 188 to 191 degrees running on flat road. Going up a hill it would climb 4 or 5 degrees and taper back off on the downhill. Perfect! Carey 2006 Cayman 5.9 ISB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eyeball Posted February 4, 2022 Share Posted February 4, 2022 5 hours ago, Scott 61 said: Do you have an aladdin system if so you should be able to monitor your engine gauges No No aladdin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacwjames Posted February 4, 2022 Share Posted February 4, 2022 My gauges work in that they all move when I start driving but none of temp, pressure, volt is accurate. Drove me crazy. Best thing I did was start using a Silverleaf VMSpc about 9 years ago, it shows all the vital info on engine and transmission (except EGT, wish it did this). There are other options out there, Bluefire & Scangauge are two of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David K Posted February 4, 2022 Share Posted February 4, 2022 I also installed the Scan Gauge D. It was one of the better investments I made. I found the dashboard gauges on our 2003 HR Scepter are not very accurate. The Cummins runs at 182 F. When we go up a grade, the temperature increases a few degrees until we reach the summit, and then comes back down. I found cooling and performance are optimized by gearing down and keep engine RPMs at 1900. I really recommend the Scan Gauge D. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivan K Posted February 4, 2022 Share Posted February 4, 2022 +1 for Scangauge as it was the cheapest and no effort option when I wanted to verify accuracy of my gauges. Nothing fancy but did what I needed. Likely no more expensive than having someone to hook it up to Insite. Since I know now that the gauges work fine, I keep the display on RPM, water temp, oil pressure and oil temp for a quick verification once a while at night when my gauges are hard to read. Need to figure out how to make the needles visible in the dark... gauges light up but needles remain dark. Will try black light now that I think of it again... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuck B 2004 Windsor Posted February 5, 2022 Share Posted February 5, 2022 There is 2 different ways in the programing of the ECM for the readout on the gauge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
96 EVO Posted February 5, 2022 Share Posted February 5, 2022 On 2/3/2022 at 7:44 PM, Ted Carbonaro said: The Temp gauge on my (new to me) 06 Monaco Camelot with Cummings LSI400 has no numbers to read actual temperature. The gauge has; C, H and the two lines that I assumed would be the operating range. So far I have only one 50 mile trip to move the coach to storage. The 50 mile trip had minimal hills and I wasn't towing. The outside ambient temp that day was in the high 20's and I expected the gauge to read in the middle or towards the cold side, but it hovered around the line closest to the HOT side. I believe that the typical operating range should be around 185-205. Can anyone tell me what that should equate to on the gauge with no numbers? Is it typical for that gauge to read so high in cold weather? Didn't your Camelot come with the Aladdin Jr system? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ted Carbonaro Posted February 5, 2022 Author Share Posted February 5, 2022 4 hours ago, 96 EVO said: Didn't your Camelot come with the Aladdin Jr system? It probably does have the Aladdin Jr system. The coach is in storage, so I can't confirm until early next week. We are about to embark on our maiden voyage (02/12/22 - ???) and I'm just trying to get up to speed with all systems prior to departure. My previous experience has been with older, less equipped RV's. At this point, I clearly don't know what I don't know. Based on some recommendations here, I have ordered a Scan Gauge D. If my Camelot is equipped with Aladdin, maybe I don't need it. But I'd rather have it and not need it than need it and not have it. As a new to Monaco owner; I'm grateful for all recommendations and advice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
96 EVO Posted February 5, 2022 Share Posted February 5, 2022 Well, if you see Aladdin Jr printed above / below a little joystick on your dash, with engine running, press the select button on you rear camera monitor several times. You should get to the Aladdin channel. From there, you use that little joystick to scroll thru various engine / transmission readings, trip meters, etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ted Carbonaro Posted February 5, 2022 Author Share Posted February 5, 2022 Thanks Ben & Sharon, I'll be looking for it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eyeball Posted February 11, 2022 Share Posted February 11, 2022 Well I bought a bluefire. But I can't seem to get the the adapter courd plugged into my diagnostic port any suggestions before I send it back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacwjames Posted February 11, 2022 Share Posted February 11, 2022 5 hours ago, eyeball said: Well I bought a bluefire. But I can't seem to get the the adapter courd plugged into my diagnostic port any suggestions before I send it back. I think you may have to get an adapter depending on how many pins you have. https://www.amazon.com/My20-ELD-Adapter-Cable-J1708-J1939/dp/B076R1Z937 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eyeball Posted February 11, 2022 Share Posted February 11, 2022 I have the adapter 9 to 6. Just can't get it to plug in 11 minutes ago, jacwjames said: I think you may have to get an adapter depending on how many pins you have. https://www.amazon.com/My20-ELD-Adapter-Cable-J1708-J1939/dp/B076R1Z937 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacwjames Posted February 11, 2022 Share Posted February 11, 2022 12 minutes ago, eyeball said: I have the adapter 9 to 6. Just can't get it to plug in No idea what the problem is other then the port on my rig is in a hard to reach location making it hard to pt the adapter in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ted Carbonaro Posted February 12, 2022 Author Share Posted February 12, 2022 Turns out the "Magic Bus" 06 Camelot does NOT have the Aladdin system. My new ScanGuage D can in the mail today. Looking forward to connecting it as we hit the road tomorrow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
96 EVO Posted February 14, 2022 Share Posted February 14, 2022 On 2/11/2022 at 6:30 PM, Ted Carbonaro said: Turns out the "Magic Bus" 06 Camelot does NOT have the Aladdin system. My new ScanGuage D can in the mail today. Looking forward to connecting it as we hit the road tomorrow. Well that's strange! They installed the JR system in the later years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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