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Well its come to my attention fall is upon me (yeah… im gifted🤪) sitting here thinking i need to make a project for the cooler, wetter days. I have purchased the auto gen start kit so that will be a quick weekend, however im concidering either the Watts suspesion upgrade or the Talin slide out support! Now to be fair im planning on a trip to Quartsite for at least 2 months so its not like i have a unlimited amount of time. Both projects offer a awsome upgrade pertaining to there areas of concern, and i had tried to measure for the talin slide support however i discovered my head is not flat enough to see the other end of the tape measure😖 an speaking with Beathany from Talin she stated i need a helper to do what needs to be done😳☹️ Just to get the measurements, ( when i spoke with her i asked IF they would be in Quartsite so i could get a proper measurment) Alas they will not… (* Side note, i find there seem to be less opertunitys for Rvrs out west than there are for other parts of the country… just my opinion) So im finding that the premade kit for the suspension upgrade is offering more intrest only cause it is already designed to just be installed. Any ideas? I just finished dinner an had 2 beers an 2 shots trying to determine what to do with my freetime. Can anyone who has performed these projects wiegh in on the effort, or detail? Can one person perform either one of these on a weekend with any level of success? 

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Well, we have the MonacoWatts kit on the front which all but completely eliminated roll and the cross braces, also from Mike Hughes,  on the rear trailing arms which substantial eliminated tail wag.   Both amazing mods.

Tempted to add the cross links to the front too, but, thinking I need to be rid of the Sheppard M100 steering gear in favor of a TRW box first.

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11 hours ago, TomV48 said:

Tempted to add the cross links to the front too, but, thinking I need to be rid of the Sheppard M100 steering gear in favor of a TRW box first.

Tom,

If you already have the watts link up front, the cross links/bars are redundant... watts links are actually better at holding things steady....   One of the big reasons that cross links are not used in the front, and more expensive watts links is because of the genny up front does not let the cross links fit.

Rik,

I installed the front watts link and the rear cross link rods, I would do that (one day job for both if you want to work all day)  I prefer to work a couple of hours a day these days...  The challenge these days is (or can be) availability of the watts link and cross link rod kits.  Might have to wait to get them. 

I'm not sure on the "slide out support", ..... what slide are you referring to?  I installed the plates on my bedroom slideout, easy job, takes a few hours.

Both were a couple of the best things I did.... One man job for the most part, but extra hands can be helpful if nothing more than saving you from crawling in and out from underneath the coach

Ken

 

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Yeah your probably right however my work ethic is more important😎 plus i find owning a MH is more therapeutic when i am going somewhere, however due to… the fuel crisis its cheaper to work on it🤦‍♂️

I was talking about the slide out supports. Because of my seals an the need to have my glasses on im finding it difficult to see the end of the tape

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I did the Watts link on the front, took my time, a two day project. The crossbars on the rear of my 08 Knight38PDQ, was a one day project. Did both mods by myself. Pretty straightforward assembly.

l bet you can do it.

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Order of the “experts” priority ….. based on my experience and conversations and reading.

Shepherd change out to TRW OR properly adjust your TRW Box

Watts link up front.  Many comments in other threads.  Follow Highes instructions.  PREGREASE center pivot end links.  Flex the joints and loosen up the threads.

I would drive it and see how it does.
 

If your shocks are shot, replace them with good ones.  Some prefer a softer ride and use the equivalent OEM Monroe’s.   They will require more frequent replacement.  Some prefer premium like Koni, regular Bilstein or proprietary Source Engineering Bilstein.  The heavier Source will dampen, NOT ELIMINATE, the tail wagging. I tested…yes. So, if the tail wagging is still an issue, then cross links.  But having WORKING SHOCKS to your driving and ride tastes is first….then decide on Cross Links.  
 

 

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13 hours ago, Rikadoo said:

Well its come to my attention fall is upon me (yeah… im gifted🤪) sitting here thinking i need to make a project for the cooler, wetter days. I have purchased the auto gen start kit so that will be a quick weekend, however im concidering either the Watts suspesion upgrade or the Talin slide out support! Now to be fair im planning on a trip to Quartsite for at least 2 months so its not like i have a unlimited amount of time. Both projects offer a awsome upgrade pertaining to there areas of concern, and i had tried to measure for the talin slide support however i discovered my head is not flat enough to see the other end of the tape measure😖 an speaking with Beathany from Talin she stated i need a helper to do what needs to be done😳☹️ Just to get the measurements, ( when i spoke with her i asked IF they would be in Quartsite so i could get a proper measurment) Alas they will not… (* Side note, i find there seem to be less opertunitys for Rvrs out west than there are for other parts of the country… just my opinion) So im finding that the premade kit for the suspension upgrade is offering more intrest only cause it is already designed to just be installed. Any ideas? I just finished dinner an had 2 beers an 2 shots trying to determine what to do with my freetime. Can anyone who has performed these projects wiegh in on the effort, or detail? Can one person perform either one of these on a weekend with any level of success? 

Mixed subject topics (Guardin Plates vs Chassis improvements) are difficult to keep focused.

it is suggested that, this morning, a search for Watts or Hughes be performed.  There are at least 10 topics or threads, some over 5 pages on this.  Researching them will provide a lot of answers.  

Same for searching for Guardian or Plates.  I was able to successfully, without help, measure with a 1” power tape, three slides and personally installed them.  There are multiple topics or threads with my and many others, experiences….

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I would definitely do the Guardian plates on any slide that has a problem that these will resolve. Before the Watts system. 
If no slide problem than the Watts System will improve your driving experience and add another layer of safety in your driving. 
 

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I've done both the Guardian plates and the Watts myself.    Accurate measuring for the guardian's is important, but it can be done single handed.    Just take your time.  There many Youtube videos on the measuring procedure.

If you're going to Quartzsite, consider talking to Mike Hughes (MonacoWatts)  first.  He's been there every year  I've been going and even  helped me put on my front watts a couple years ago.  If he is coming out, he just needs to know what kit you will need.    We usually go to the area that the IRV2 crowd goes to, which is south of town.   

FWIW, I did the rear watts and rear cross bars myself.

The only issue I see about doing the Guardian plates at Quartzsite, is the Mastic/glue drying time Talin gives you (5200).  The package says it takes 7 days to fully cure.   When I did mine, it was sitting in it's garage, so curing time wasn't an issue.    I'd check with Bethany at Talin to see if you can roll the slides in before that 7 days is up.

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Morning everyone an Happy Thanksgiving, 1st an mostly importantly thank you from everyone who responded to my question, as i was really torn as to which direction i should go. It wasnt till i reciently took a trip heading to the Reno area, it was then i remembered a mantra i gave myself MANY years ago early in my carrereer. That is whenever im faced with mulitipul types of work an not sure of the direction i should head ALWAYS choose Safety 1st, that little ditty has served me well whether im working on a customers car or my own. 
So the trip into the Reno area from california, the stretch of road is just after the bug station by maybe a mile your heading downward in the slow lane when you run up on a patch where truckers have rutted the road, (downhill with the engine brake engauged) my coach would jump from one rut to the other, at that moment i remembered that was the 1st time i ever felt uneasy when i drove my rig, luckily the fast lane was open so i finished my decent in that lane with no further problems, im almost positive i heard a “POP” when i pulled over an got out of my seat so i could stretch an “walk it off” 🙀
Up untill that moment an even after that, the coach has always been stable when i drove it, it has never givin me a reason to think there was anything wrong with its handeling an frankly since i had just reciently installed a “SafetySteer” i believed i had just installed a layer of protection that would have covered any issues like that. So now asside from learning about upholstery repair😂 i now understand my next project will be to purchase and install the Watts links, once compleated i will drive that portion of road once again to assess if that repaired my issue, i will then report back as to my results. Again thank you all.

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