ph1386 Posted January 28, 2023 Share Posted January 28, 2023 04 executive. I have lost my cruise control. When I push the on off button nothing happens. Also my windshield wipers any not working properly. You have to hold down the button to keep them going. Any ideas where to start? Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
willbo777 Posted January 28, 2023 Share Posted January 28, 2023 If you have a smart wheel it could be your clock spring. That's what happened to us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ph1386 Posted January 28, 2023 Author Share Posted January 28, 2023 Yes it’s a smart wheel. Can you explain what clock spring is and where it is? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr4Film Posted January 28, 2023 Share Posted January 28, 2023 As Bill suggested it could be your Clock-spring inside the steering wheel cover OR it could be the VIP Control Module. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ph1386 Posted January 28, 2023 Author Share Posted January 28, 2023 Where is the module located? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Van Arsdall Posted January 28, 2023 Share Posted January 28, 2023 Check your horn also. If it is not working as well, then it is for sure the clock spring. Happened to me as well. It is not difficult to change but you would need a steering wheel puller to get the wheel off of the column to access it. The VIP columns are used in many semi trucks so parts should be available or try Veurinks in Michigan. They know Monaco's very good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
willbo777 Posted January 28, 2023 Share Posted January 28, 2023 9 minutes ago, ph1386 said: Yes it’s a smart wheel. Can you explain what clock spring is and where it is? It is under your steering wheel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Busch Posted January 28, 2023 Share Posted January 28, 2023 My smart wheel box gave out a couple years ago. Crazy how much critical stuff goes through there. New box and it works great. good luck paulb Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mi Bill Posted January 28, 2023 Share Posted January 28, 2023 I had them both go out on our 2009 Regal IV recently. I was able to fix the wipers by replacing the 25A fuse in the covered box within the bay under the drivers seat. The cruise only worked on res and at the last set speed, even if the coach was shut off and restarted. The set button worked intermittently, I could live with that as long as the wipers worked. Bill Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ph1386 Posted January 28, 2023 Author Share Posted January 28, 2023 The wiper do work but you have to hold down the on button to keep them going. If not you only get one wipe. Mr bill where is the box located and where did you get your replacement? Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Busch Posted January 28, 2023 Share Posted January 28, 2023 This box was my trouble. paulb Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stacyhall Posted January 28, 2023 Share Posted January 28, 2023 1 hour ago, willbo777 said: If you have a smart wheel it could be your clock spring. That's what happened to us. We replaced the clock spring to find out it was our vip control module. 2006 Camelot 42dsq Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacwjames Posted January 28, 2023 Share Posted January 28, 2023 Here is a link to the VIP Smartwheel troubleshooting guide Some tests you can do. Also, under the steering column cover there is a wiring harness that goes down the side that sometimes causes problems. Remove the shroud and look for a wiring harness connector and confirm it is tight. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocketman3 Posted January 28, 2023 Share Posted January 28, 2023 I have a 2000 dynasty. My issue was the clockspring got dirty- it just needed a couple of really good cleanings. Are your cruise and wipers buttons lighted? Mine are not. If they are lighted you have a four wire clockspring - it is a little cable. (and this would not be your solution). Mine is a 2-wire - it has contacts riding on a brass(?) ring. The ring got dirty over time. what I did to clean it- steering wheel all the way up and flat, took off the plastic shroud. Got some Q-tips and dipped them in denatured alcohol and cleaned the ring. Turned the steering wheel occasionally. First time I did it - it lasted 6 months. Then cleaned it again - even better and it has been a year now. Good Luck! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Idoc57 Posted January 29, 2023 Share Posted January 29, 2023 11 hours ago, ph1386 said: 04 executive. I have lost my cruise control. When I push the on off button nothing happens. Also my windshield wipers any not working properly. You have to hold down the button to keep them going. Any ideas where to start? Thanks Paul, I don't know that this will help you at all because so many of the guys who have a smart wheel feel like the clockspring is the problem. All I know is that my cruise control quit working because I left my exhaust brake on while I was driving, rather than just using it when needed on downhills and momentarily to help slow down from highway speeds. You might just glance at your exhaust brake switch and see if it is on, but this info is probably more useful to guys who have a "dumbwheel" like me. 🙂 Carey Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
birdshill123 Posted January 29, 2023 Share Posted January 29, 2023 If your smart wheel needs a new controller the sm210 is available. If you have the 211 they have been on BO for well over a year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
planodp Posted January 29, 2023 Share Posted January 29, 2023 29 minutes ago, birdshill123 said: If your smart wheel needs a new controller the sm210 is available. If you have the 211 they have been on BO for well over a year. Bruce, what the different between the SM210 and SM211. Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
birdshill123 Posted January 29, 2023 Share Posted January 29, 2023 I do not know the exact difference but they cannot be substituted. You can call the mfr. of these systems. They no longer provide tech support but can answer simple questions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MHRookie Posted January 29, 2023 Share Posted January 29, 2023 Ph1386, You need to get the VIP troubleshooting document and go through the steps to help identify the issue. 2 pieces to the puzzle.. SM209/SM210 board OR Clock Spring VIP uses 4 boards 209/210 are interchangeable… 211 & 213 are NOT - so you really need to verify which one you have and use the right testing document. Doing the tests, you may find that the contacts need to be cleaned in the wiring harnesses so systems make good contact again. best of luck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ph1386 Posted January 29, 2023 Author Share Posted January 29, 2023 I have the sm210. Any idea where I can get one? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr4Film Posted January 29, 2023 Share Posted January 29, 2023 Northwest RV Supply in Oregon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Blackmon Posted January 29, 2023 Share Posted January 29, 2023 The place to start is the connection at the bottom of the steering column. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MHRookie Posted January 29, 2023 Share Posted January 29, 2023 (edited) 41 minutes ago, ph1386 said: I have the sm210. Any idea where I can get one? Ph1836 - I sent you a PM to read… update… I just looked AND company name is IMMINET.COM Edited January 29, 2023 by MHRookie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
birdshill123 Posted January 29, 2023 Share Posted January 29, 2023 Both the 210 and 211 are now available. But call the mfr. first for a price as the online price for the 210 is very high. Just 2 months ago it was around $350. Now $100 higher. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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