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2 hours ago, klcdenver said:

It kinda sounds like it is overheating. Clean your filter and make sure no obstructions on return air. Take shroud off up top and make sure coils or not plugged up with dirt and leaves.

It will run like a champ on high so would you still think it’s possibly overheating?  I did not have ladder access this weekend but i will get up top tomorrow and see. It just hs me stumped because the back ac runs just fine. 

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2 hours ago, klcdenver said:

It kinda sounds like it is overheating. Clean your filter and make sure no obstructions on return air. Take shroud off up top and make sure coils or not plugged up with dirt and leaves.

As a matter of fact I went and checked and since the temperatures have cooled down it is working exactly like it should. It worked last night like it should. Seems the only issues are in the heat of the day so maybe it is overheating. 

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I have finished the installation of the Houghton. In the black box attached is only 12 volt wiring and temp sensor and the RJ 11 communication lines. I bought the box off Amazon. I had to modify the return air and forced conditioned air separator, picture attached. I had to make the attach bolts out of some all thread rod (#8x1.25). I made them  9” long and just welded a nut on one end to have a hex head. 
 

Now for the good part. My old penguin 13,500 BTU with a wacko silencer was 58 decibels. It would heat to 106 degrees and cool to 39 degrees in the duck work. The Houghton is 53 decibels. It heats to 112 degrees and cools to 33 degrees in the duct work. I took the temps in the same place for both. It is much quieter on the outside versus the penguin's also.

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I should have included this picture also which is the control board and wiring.

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2 hours ago, klcdenver said:

I have finished the installation of the Houghton. In the black box attached is only 12 volt wiring and temp sensor and the RJ 11 communication lines. I bought the box off Amazon. I had to modify the return air and forced conditioned air separator, picture attached. I had to make the attach bolts out of some all thread rod (#8x1.25). I made them  9” long and just welded a nut on one end to have a hex head. 
 

Now for the good part. My old penguin 13,500 BTU with a wacko silencer was 58 decibels. It would heat to 106 degrees and cool to 39 degrees in the duck work. The Houghton is 53 decibels. It heats to 112 degrees and cools to 33 degrees in the duct work. I took the temps in the same place for both. It is much quieter on the outside versus the penguin's also.

CC0B6F83-3A48-4300-BA97-6B59512AF6E2.jpeg

5D346D18-FB81-485E-A0B6-54BC75C57AB4.jpeg

F99247F1-76A2-4D67-BD85-8334FCD4F1A2.jpeg

18036B91-1329-44E0-ADE1-E8CECFEC7CAF.jpeg

I should have included this picture also which is the control board and wiring.

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Ken, by leaving the black box in, you still have your MH thermostat operating the Monaco installed A/C and furnaces. The Houghton has its own thermostat to control the heating/cooling.

Gary 05 AMB DST

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54 minutes ago, klcdenver said:

By leaving the 12volt in it keeps the 5 button control panel working the front furnace plus the rear penguin in all modes. 

Ken, I still have my original A/C's and I know their life is nearing an end. I wasn't happy with replacing them (hopefully one at a time) and having to replace the thermostat to the CCC(?) thermostat. I didn't want to get involved with a technician to do it. When I saw that the Houghton's had their own thermostat, I felt like it's getting closer to doing the install without changing the existing thermostat. Thank You for making my day.

Gary 05 AMB DST

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18 hours ago, klcdenver said:

I have finished the installation of the Houghton. In the black box attached is only 12 volt wiring and temp sensor and the RJ 11 communication lines. I bought the box off Amazon. I had to modify the return air and forced conditioned air separator, picture attached. I had to make the attach bolts out of some all thread rod (#8x1.25). I made them  9” long and just welded a nut on one end to have a hex head. 
 

Now for the good part. My old penguin 13,500 BTU with a wacko silencer was 58 decibels. It would heat to 106 degrees and cool to 39 degrees in the duck work. The Houghton is 53 decibels. It heats to 112 degrees and cools to 33 degrees in the duct work. I took the temps in the same place for both. It is much quieter on the outside versus the penguin's also.

CC0B6F83-3A48-4300-BA97-6B59512AF6E2.jpeg

5D346D18-FB81-485E-A0B6-54BC75C57AB4.jpeg

F99247F1-76A2-4D67-BD85-8334FCD4F1A2.jpeg

18036B91-1329-44E0-ADE1-E8CECFEC7CAF.jpeg

I should have included this picture also which is the control board and wiring.

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Please provide the link/info on the box you bought on Amazon.

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Sorry I am not good with linking and all that. I have attached a picture of what I used. You will have to cut slot/hole in to the box to insert the wires. You will also need to drill a few holes to mount the inserts to hold the control board. Call me or pm me if I can help you more.

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Just a short note for, I think, clarification.  Ken said the the 13.5 K Unit Up front had the board in the plenum.  That is why he chose the box and materials. Great job and super informative.

He also tested the rear which was a 15K unit.  IIRC, as well as based on my units, the Control Module is mounted on the AC unit on the roof.  Therefore if or when he replaces it, he will have to find a top side location on the Houghton under the shroud or mount it in the inside plenum.

I do not know if the 15K board is the same PN or is the same PCB on a different chassis nor how they compare, physically, in size.

JUST BE AWARE…!  This is a great HOW TO topic and a lot of useful and correct information is included…..learned a lot…which will benefit others in the future

Kudo’s to Ken for sharing and experimenting 

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