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Hey all, sorry for the late response, this is the first day back in my office. OK first off the beast is fixed!!! The below YouTube links are video's I made were for my customer that I thought you may enjoy watching. I can say in all honesty this would not have happened without all the input from Rick and the rest of you with the schematics, suggestions, and phone snapshots. I took all the information from these posts as well as what Monaco offered via email, drove to a Starbucks and parked it at a table for two hours, and plugged everything together and drew out all the information I needed on a single sheet of paper. In the end I had a rock-solid strategy to repair the following... 1) DPDT rocker that had too high resistance on the "front" position 2) super fried rear ignition board that was not permitting ground to all three relays 3) a circuit board up front that wasn't sending a Neutral Safety Switch signal "handshake" to the rear If you are wondering if this rig got struck by lightning, I am wondering the same. As you may or may not recall this motorhome has been sitting at a different RV shop for two years. The guys at the shop are more geared towards interior stuff and they couldn't solve the riddle. When the RV was to be towed to a different shop, the tow truck driver couldn't grab it due to positioning problems, therefore they called my company. So in the end I replaced the front board, got the neutral safety signal back to the rear, pulled the rear board out and unsoldered two of the three relays and made a separate third board with clean reliable grounds, and hard wired the board the board to the preexisting wiring. The motivation for fabricating a third board was in some of the photo's posted in this sight, I noticed Monaco, for the later years, started doing the same. That led me to believe this "three relay" board was a train wreck and I needed to upgrade the design like Monaco did. Furthermore I could only find used boards out there and vendors were asking like $800 for them. Essentially $800 for a substandard design that was not reliable. Again thank you guys for all your input. I wish all I had to work on was Monaco electrical cause then I would have the dream team tech support from this web site.

Hi Again Rick. Your post has been printed out. I finally had a moment to take a deep dive on it. It was quite specific and insightful. I'll let you know what happens tomorrow. Pardon me repeating myself but I figure I might as well answer your questions in one place. Yes neutral light is on but I am not sure if the signal is making it to the back. I'll know tomorrow.... Starter works when I use a remote start switch. Yes the schematics are not so good and don't match that well. But between John's schematic post, an your instructions, (and Monaco), I have everything drawn out on a single large sheet, and can now start testing properly. I wrote Monaco and attached John's schematic from his 03. I really really think Monaco has something lost in translation with their VIN numbers. I think it is an 04 and not an 06. I'll attach the same label I sent to Monaco below, also I will reattach Jon's schematic below...but thanks again !!

Hey Bruce I finally have a moment to sit and look at your attachments. You got it baby!! That is the schematic I needed!! It apears the 03 is closer to what I have. Monaco keeps telling me it's an 06 (and sometimes they say 05), but my customer was led to believe it was an 04. I think I have enough info between everybody to close this down. I'll head back over there tomorrow, and report back. Thanks again!! Myron, I wish I could drag you out to the job site. Don't bow out yet. Hopefully I'll have the case cracked by tomorrow evening. What I honestly wish is every piece of equipment I worked on had such a rock solid set of guys like the Monaco group. Does anyone know of a similar type of group for Cat Excavators? I have one of those that is really kicking my butt right now as well. Hey David, thanks for the input, on that 50amp resettable fuse, was that the trigger line leading to the starter solenoid?

Wow look at that!! You have exactly what Monaco says I should have, but I don't. I also noticing your relay board has one less relay than mine. At the very least I think the photo is helpful for keeping my sanity. It's now Sunday I haven't even gotten to the relay board yet. I'll report soon. Thank you

Yes sir, it was good

Hey Myron Hey Rick, I'm on the road. I took the rear board off the coach to test. I'll get back to you when I have a chance to sit in front of the computer and read your posts. Looks like there's some good info. Essentially I just want to find schematics that match that board and the wire is coming in and out of it. My gut tells me the wacky circuit board up front is sending a signal or not sending a signal something like that to that rear board. But I just want a grasp of the purpose of the wires going into the circuit board. It looks like Rick is going over that exact subject. I'll read Rick's post, test the old and rockers and report back to you guys. Rick, to answer your first question I can start the motor only with a remote starter wired directly to the starter in the rear. There is a lot of information already covered and people are starting to ask the same questions over again. Starter works just fine and engine idles just fine it's just not receiving a trigger signal from the coach irregardless if I have it toggled to the front or the rear. Monarch just sent me all 117 pages of what they have. And there's no schematic of the wiring going into that circuit board, and all those pages. Quite frustrating. The schematics are quite pretty and there is an upload section. I'm noticing there's no 95 Galaxy so I'll upload it onto this website. Might as well spread the love even if the schematics aren't complete. Here's a photo of the board...

Hey Mark Yes the shifter is lit up displaying neutral N

Hi Jim Hi Ray, I wish the batteries were wired up incorrectly and that was the problem. In my younger days I've visited that rodeo. The no start problem was there prior to the batteries being swapped. It's been stranded at my customer's previous shop for over 2 years. The temp probe on the battery rotted away and the solar panels just kept boiling the batteries as the motorhome sat. The batteries are 100% hooked up correctly and I fabricated new cables because the old ones were so rotted. That's definitely not the issue. The dash lights being left on was for running the engine once I triggered the starter with the remote. As for electrical gremlins the dash lights are behaving but there is one accessory board that's acting wacky (up front). I've left it out of this post because right now I'm focused on getting wiring schematics for that ignition circuit board in the back. I suspect the problem wire that's not doing what it's supposed to do on that rear ignition circuit board is associated with the wacky board in the front but first thing is first I need those wiring schematics for that rear ignition board. Thanks again!!

That's quite funny I just found a chewed up fuel line in one of my customers vans. No signs of critters sir. But thank you.

Hi Rick, Thanks for looking in to it. I found a diagram that breaks down the starter circuit board (Attachment #1) but what I really hoping to get is the wiring schematics that lead into this circuit board, (position J1 "Header 3" / position 2 "Header 4"), otherwise the attached diagram isn't enough information. Unfortunately the schematic Monaco emailed me does not match what I have on the RV. I'll repost those 2 photos below. You will notice Circuit board (R1) is the starter circuit board. That schematic only list a 4 pin plug (J2). Furthermore it lists a solenoid which this RV does not have. Finally it does not list a 3 pin plug (J1). Compare that to the photo, and you can see the difference. Hi Myron I just read your larger post just now. I an going to swing back to the job site next week. I wanted a correct schematic for the board and the wiring leading into the board. What I currently have, provided by Monaco, is not an accurate schematic. Hence me reaching out to this incredible group. Hopefully someone will have the correct schematic. I will circle back to the job site next week and continue and get back to all of you. As for your request of a closeup picture of the "verbiage," above I attached a close up but I could not read any verbiage of a circuit board. Perhaps I misunderstood your question?

Hi Bruce, Thanks for that suggestion, the ignition was on when I toggled to the rear to start no luck. Hey Myron, Hidden behind my hand and nothing up my sleeves, is a fuse rack. I reached behind the entire box thinking maybe they bolted the solenoid to the other side but nothing is back there. Also it is very tight back there. I really think the diagram is just wrong and the they only use those dinky relays soldered to the circuit board above and slightly to the right of my hand.

Hi Vito, Thank you for the response. I have located the starter solenoid board in the rear fuse/breaker compartment. I am 99.9% sure the problem is centered there. Most likely one of the signal wires is not behaving as it should, or as you had mentioned the relay may be at fault. I went over all the schematics for this year's Dynasty in the Download section of this site but could not find a schematic on that rear starter solenoid board. I did find a basic drawing of a solenoid but it is nothing like what I have. The drawing shows a large "bolted in place" solenoid rather than a soldered relay. I have a super small relay. I'll attach some photo's. Perhaps if you have a link on that solenoid board I could do some testing? The first photo where my finger is pointed to is where the schematic says a solonoid should be bolted. Right obove (and slightly to the right is the relay board I was hoping to obtain some schematics on. Hey Brad, thanks for your reply I have been caught on those "obvious" things in the past. Doesn't hurt to bring up, but yes I checked the rocker position a bunch of times. Hey Ivan, it won't start from the rear or the front - Thanks Hey Russ, Thanks for the link. Unfortunately I have that schematic, as you will notice where my finger is pointed (attached photo), instead of that starter solenoid, there exists a 12+ volt buss bar. The schematic doesn't match what I have in the back box. I emailed Monaco and they said there is nothing more they can offer.

Hello new to site and to this motorhome. I am a diesel electric mechanic by trade and was handed this beast from another shop because they couldn't figure it out. I have a 2006 Dynasty with brand new batteries (house and chassis). All 6 batteries are fully charged, cleaned, new cables, all wired correctly. When I attempt to start I can't get the rig to crank, not in the front nor if I toggle the rear rockers. The rig will run if I leave the dash lights on, crawl under the rig to access the starter and use a remote starter to bypass the motorhome electrical. It starts and idles just fine. I know there are logic overrides that prevent a motor home from starting, say for example if the awning is out or if the unit is in drive etc... but am not familiar with the entire Check List for this model. I was hoping someone could direct me to a list of items that I can can go check to make sure all the mundane items are covered. There exists an item that is already broken that may or may not be the problem but with RV's there are a lot of Red Hearings. Mechanics tend to be lured off track quite easily. Essentially I want to make sure it is not some boneheaded obvious thing before I tackle the ignition circuit board that is currently lit up like a Christmas tree.