bklaes Posted March 23, 2024 Posted March 23, 2024 I'm doing the door window removal, cleaning, reassembly and reinstall project to eliminate the moisture between the panes. (Tom Cherry, I HAVE SEARCHED this forum and HAVE READ the prior posts and HAVE WATCHED YouTube videos). I still have a question. It is suggested using butly tape to seal the 2 back together. In 2015 JACWJAMES wrote, Monaco did not use the butyl type caulk on the window but instead used a rubber type weather seal that you could reuse if you didn't cut up too bad with the putty knife." My original rubber seal survived disassembly and is in good shape. I have in my shop a roll of 1" Butyl tape. Any recommendations... re-use the original rubber weather seal or use the butyl tape? Use both? I just don't want to go thru this again.
Martinvz Posted March 23, 2024 Posted March 23, 2024 Bill, what do you mean by 1” tape? Is that width or thickness? The tape the ‘pros’ use is about 1/4” diameter that flattens out when the glass is pressed together before reinstallation into the frame. They use a black bead tape that could have a sirt of desiccant in it but I have not seen the specs to confirm this.
Ivylog Posted March 23, 2024 Posted March 23, 2024 (edited) Just did my door window and reused the seal. Ran a small bead of silicone around the circumference and smoothed with my finger to help seal before putting the rubber U back on. Only been 2 weeks but looks good and we’ve had a fair amount of rain. Yea I know people don’t like silicone, but it’s my window and I’ve used it for decades with good results out of the sun. Edited March 23, 2024 by Ivylog
bklaes Posted March 23, 2024 Author Posted March 23, 2024 (edited) Martin, I will use a 3/16" spacer from CRL, then fill with spacer sealant. After that, I'm asking if I apply a strip of butyl that is 1" wide (probably 1/8" thick") or reuse the original rubber weather seal. Dick, so I'm clear... you ran a bead of silicone around the 2 panes after the spacer sealant was applied, and before you re-installed the "U-shape" weather stripping? Something else I forgot to mention in my original post... a bead of white silicon/pro-flex was applied to the outside of the door around the window hole, before the window frame was inserted. A small bead of caulk, in the area that is unpainted. I didn't read anything about making that bead of caulk during reassembly. Edited March 23, 2024 by bklaes clarity
jacwjames Posted March 23, 2024 Posted March 23, 2024 My windows were in a frame, don't remember a rubber seal like that. After cleaning the window I used the spacer, https://www.dkhardware.com/black-3-16-wide-x-3-16-thick-edgetech-super-spacer-66-roll-ss31666bl-product-77197.html, I then used this sealant https://www.dkhardware.com/black-silicone-foam-and-metal-super-spacer-insulating-glass-sealant-877-product-18840.html with a guide block to put a good seal around the edge https://www.dkhardware.com/3-16-polyethylene-sealant-guide-sgt316-product-15491.html The used the metal frame to put window back in. And then a bead of caulk around the perimeter of the frame. But your's may be different.
Martinvz Posted March 23, 2024 Posted March 23, 2024 Thanks Jim, that was what I was referring to. For the window frame you can use the same type bead as the first product you had but upsize it to 1/4 or 5/8 to get a good seal. There might be some squeeze out along the edges but that is easily solved with a plastic scraper from Harbor Freight. The service that cleaned my windows reinstalled using the existing rubber seal at the edge of the frame and 2 windows leaked badly. They came out and caulked the frame but it does not look great. I am thinking that I might pull the frames and use the butyl bead on those windows.
bklaes Posted March 23, 2024 Author Posted March 23, 2024 Something seems different. I'll keep re-read and re-watch the info.
96 EVO Posted March 24, 2024 Posted March 24, 2024 If the original seal is in good shape, you could re-install. Myself, I use butyl tape, and toss the factory rubber.
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