Woody O Posted November 26, 2020 Share Posted November 26, 2020 In process of winterizing and when I tried to turn on the washer to run antifreeze thru it, would not turn on. I tried the dryer and it would not come on. I checked the shore power and I have 122 on one leg and 124 on the other leg. The residential refer is working and so does the three AC's. Checked the breaker in the bedroom as well as the breaker above the washer and dryer. Turned both off and then back on. Still no power. So before I start pulling washer&dryer out to get to the plug to check for power, what am I missing? Anything? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank Bergamo Posted November 26, 2020 Share Posted November 26, 2020 Woody, check to see if the GFI in the bathroom is tripped. Hope this helps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr4Film Posted November 26, 2020 Share Posted November 26, 2020 With three AC's I believe you may have a transfer relay that chooses between the third AC and the washer/dryer combo. Perhaps there is a problem with that relay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woody O Posted November 26, 2020 Author Share Posted November 26, 2020 Frank, I checked the GFI breakers , turned o0ff and then back on. No change. Dr4Film, do you know what that transfer relay looks like and where it might be located? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Haggard Posted November 26, 2020 Share Posted November 26, 2020 I cant run 3 acs and the washer. I have a switch in the kitchen. By sink It says Washer dryer Or Ac. 1 minute ago, John Haggard said: I cant run 3 acs and the washer. I have a switch in the kitchen. By sink It says Washer dryer Or Ac. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hypoxia Posted November 26, 2020 Share Posted November 26, 2020 Is it a combo unit or separate washer and dryer? It is normal to have the automatic switch to shut the rear A/C off when the washer is on. That would not normally affect the separate dryer . These photos are from a 2007 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Wahl Posted November 26, 2020 Share Posted November 26, 2020 My 2001 Signature has a switch located in the Kitchen for the washer dryer or the center AC. Looks just like what John posted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 26, 2020 Share Posted November 26, 2020 2 hours ago, John Haggard said: I cant run 3 acs and the washer. I have a switch in the kitchen. By sink It says Washer dryer Or Ac. I think this pictures cam not from a 2019 Sognature how you have in signature 😊 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Haggard Posted November 27, 2020 Share Posted November 27, 2020 23 minutes ago, Vilsis-Coach said: I think this pictures cam not from a 2019 Sognature how you have in signature 😊 Ohhh boy 1999 My poor mind 😪 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woody O Posted November 27, 2020 Author Share Posted November 27, 2020 Hypoxia, they are separate. Dryer on top above washer. So, they would have two separate power supplies I'm assuming on the same power line and both appear not to electrified. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hypoxia Posted November 27, 2020 Share Posted November 27, 2020 Do you have the electrical diagrams? Page 139, 140, 151 may be of use. I didn't have time to look at the rest. 2006_Dynasty_Wiring_Diagrams.pdf Schematic - 110V Wiring Diagram.pdf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woody O Posted November 27, 2020 Author Share Posted November 27, 2020 Okay guys, I've almost solved my electrical problem. Prior to this event, ever time I would turn on my coach shut-off switch, I would hear something in my RRB energize. Now, when I turn on my coach shut-off switch, there is silence. Something in my RRB is not energizing. What is it? Is it one of the solenoids? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Nodine Posted November 27, 2020 Share Posted November 27, 2020 14 hours ago, Woody O said: In process of winterizing and when I tried to turn on the washer to run antifreeze thru it, would not turn on. I tried the dryer and it would not come on. I checked the shore power and I have 122 on one leg and 124 on the other leg. The residential refer is working and so does the three AC's. Checked the breaker in the bedroom as well as the breaker above the washer and dryer. Turned both off and then back on. Still no power. So before I start pulling washer&dryer out to get to the plug to check for power, what am I missing? Anything? Does your coach have an EMS (Energy Management System)? On our coach the washer/dryer is one the things that is shed by the EMS and it could have a bad relay or need to be reset by pulling the fuse and re-installing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr4Film Posted November 27, 2020 Share Posted November 27, 2020 5 hours ago, Woody O said: Okay guys, I've almost solved my electrical problem. Prior to this event, ever time I would turn on my coach shut-off switch, I would hear something in my RRB energize. Now, when I turn on my coach shut-off switch, there is silence. Something in my RRB is not energizing. What is it? Is it one of the solenoids? I would start by solving that problem first before continuing with the washer/dryer problem. What Coach Shut-Off switch are you referring to? Is it the one that controls the 12 VDC to the inside of the coach located near the entry door or the one that disconnects the Coach Batteries completely which normally is located in one of the bays? Mine are called Battery Cut-Off Switch & Battery Disconnect Switch respectively. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woody O Posted November 27, 2020 Author Share Posted November 27, 2020 Dr4Film, I am referring to the Battery Disconnect Switch that is mounted in the battery compartment on my coach. And, when I crank up the generator, the dryer and washer get power. So, that tells us its the transfer switch, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr4Film Posted November 27, 2020 Share Posted November 27, 2020 Well after reading your last post it appears that you have two separate problems going on which have nothing to do with each other. If your washer and dryer have power with the generator running and not when hooked to 50 amp shore power then the 12 VDC Battery Disconnect Switch is not contributing to your problem that I can tell. So, when hooked to shore power have you checked to see what else if any that is 120 VAC powered is not working? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
96 EVO Posted November 27, 2020 Share Posted November 27, 2020 (edited) 8 hours ago, Woody O said: Okay guys, I've almost solved my electrical problem. Prior to this event, ever time I would turn on my coach shut-off switch, I would hear something in my RRB energize. Now, when I turn on my coach shut-off switch, there is silence. Something in my RRB is not energizing. What is it? Is it one of the solenoids? Possibly the BigBoy solenoid. But, that shouldn't stop power getting to your laundry outlets while on shore power. Edited November 27, 2020 by 96 EVO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuck B 2004 Windsor Posted November 27, 2020 Share Posted November 27, 2020 Through the years Monaco has installed many different options using various wirings.. It sure helps if those posting problems to include the year and model of their coach when asking for help. Chuck B Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
96 EVO Posted November 27, 2020 Share Posted November 27, 2020 My coach has no center A/C / washer dryer switch. Would that be because I have load shedding? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woody O Posted November 27, 2020 Author Share Posted November 27, 2020 Okay, We are talking about a 2006 Monaco Dynasty with an "Automatic Appliance Selector" . It gives priority to bedroom AC and then to the washer-dryer. However, when trying to run the washer-dryer at this time, the AC's are not turned on. With having the "Automatic Appliance Selector", I do not have a separate washer-dryer switch. To the best I can determine, the washer-dryer is the only thing not operating unless it is 120volt receptacles that I haven't checked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
96 EVO Posted November 28, 2020 Share Posted November 28, 2020 Yours is a tough one Woody! Everything else is working on shore power, yet the washer and dryer will work on gen power. Almost rules out the transfer switch, but it's always a good idea to kill the power and check the lugs in the switch occasionally. I recently had some generator issues, and the load shedding panel got confused. I turned off both battery bank master switches for a few minutes, and it seemed to reset it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woody O Posted November 28, 2020 Author Share Posted November 28, 2020 Bob, I think it must be in the "Automatic Appliance Selector", but I have no idea where it is located. I know you have a different model, but where is it located on your coach? I've turned everything off and waited a while and then turned back on and it still not working. I retightened the lugs in the transfer box. On the wiring diagrams, I've seen everything but the automatic appliance selector. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul J A Posted November 28, 2020 Share Posted November 28, 2020 2 minutes ago, Woody O said: Bob, I think it must be in the "Automatic Appliance Selector", but I have no idea where it is located. I know you have a different model, but where is it located on your coach? I've turned everything off and waited a while and then turned back on and it still not working. I retightened the lugs in the transfer box. On the wiring diagrams, I've seen everything but the automatic appliance selector. AKA, Power shedding devise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
96 EVO Posted November 28, 2020 Share Posted November 28, 2020 (edited) To get access to my Intelitec power shedding panel, you remove the outer cover on the breaker panel. It should be printed on the cover if the Inteletec panel is behind the cover. Edited November 28, 2020 by 96 EVO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Nodine Posted November 29, 2020 Share Posted November 29, 2020 (edited) 18 hours ago, Woody O said: Bob, I think it must be in the "Automatic Appliance Selector", but I have no idea where it is located. I know you have a different model, but where is it located on your coach? I've turned everything off and waited a while and then turned back on and it still not working. I retightened the lugs in the transfer box. On the wiring diagrams, I've seen everything but the automatic appliance selector. Ours is located behind the panel for the main power distribution panel where the circuit breakers are located. There is a circuit board with some relays and a fuse that can be pulled and replaced to reset it. You can also move the wire for the washer/dryer shedding relay and place both wires in the same terminal and that will bypass the EMS. If the relay is bad it will allow the washer/dryer to work but it now will not be managed. The following document has some photos of what ours looks like. EMS Panel.pdf Edited November 29, 2020 by Bob Nodine 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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