saflyer Posted July 26, 2020 Share Posted July 26, 2020 (edited) Does anyone know the equivalent Monaco model of my 2005 Holiday Rambler Ambassador 40 PLQ? Thanks, Ed Edited July 27, 2020 by saflyer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chad Y Posted July 26, 2020 Share Posted July 26, 2020 1 hour ago, saflyer said: Does anyone know the equivalent Monaco model of my 2005 Holiday Rambler 40 PLQ? Thanks, Ed Ed I believe the Monaco Knight is the sister coach to your Ambassador. Chad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary M Posted July 26, 2020 Share Posted July 26, 2020 I believe the Ambassador is equal to the Knight. Endeavor and Diplomat are equal. Pretty sure but not positive. Found this on the internet! Only 7 compared to 8 Monaco’s Holiday Rambler Pecking Order Navigator Imperial Scepter Endeavor SE Endeavor Ambassador Neptune Monaco Pecking Order Signature Executive Dynasty Windsor Camelot Diplomat Knight Cayman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuck B 2004 Windsor Posted July 27, 2020 Share Posted July 27, 2020 The equivalent is a 2005 Windsor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saflyer Posted July 27, 2020 Author Share Posted July 27, 2020 15 minutes ago, Chuck B said: The equivalent is a 2005 Windsor. Thanks, Ed 2 hours ago, Gary M said: I believe the Ambassador is equal to the Knight. Endeavor and Diplomat are equal. Pretty sure but not positive. Found this on the internet! Only 7 compared to 8 Monaco’s Holiday Rambler Pecking Order Navigator Imperial Scepter Endeavor SE Endeavor Ambassador Neptune Monaco Pecking Order Signature Executive Dynasty Windsor Camelot Diplomat Knight Cayman Which order are they in? Best on top or bottom? Ed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuck B 2004 Windsor Posted July 27, 2020 Share Posted July 27, 2020 Ed, you are the first person I know of to say thank you for a answer to a question. I appreciate that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saflyer Posted July 27, 2020 Author Share Posted July 27, 2020 So, I’ve got Knight and Windsor. Can anyone break the tie? Ed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ljrambler Posted July 27, 2020 Share Posted July 27, 2020 Yes, endeavor and Diplomat are the same as are ambassador and knight. I have a 2004 endeavor. Sure this is correct. Which model do you have? Thanks, glad to reply to your inquiry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary M Posted July 27, 2020 Share Posted July 27, 2020 Windsor is way above Ambassador Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David White Posted July 27, 2020 Share Posted July 27, 2020 Knight and Ambassador are the same. Windsor was equal to the Imperial in that year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saflyer Posted July 27, 2020 Author Share Posted July 27, 2020 (edited) 2 hours ago, ljrambler said: Yes, endeavor and Diplomat are the same as are ambassador and knight. I have a 2004 endeavor. Sure this is correct. Which model do you have? Thanks, glad to reply to your inquiry Sorry. I see now I left out Ambassador in my original post and just said Holiday Rambler 40 PLQ. Makes a big difference in the question. i do my best proofreading after I hit send. Unfortunately I didn’t even catch it then. Thanks all for bearing with me. Ed Edited July 27, 2020 by saflyer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johncvandoren@gmail.com Posted July 27, 2020 Share Posted July 27, 2020 At least as far back as 2002, Windsor has a Smart Steering Wheel, whereas my 2006 Knight has the old Dumb Steering Wheel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary M Posted July 30, 2020 Share Posted July 30, 2020 So does my 09 Knight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larry H Posted July 30, 2020 Share Posted July 30, 2020 Were the ones mentioned sister models (same chassis and essentially the same Motorhome except for slight style and trim differences) as is the case with Wenebago and Itasca, Or are they completely different Motorhomes but roughly equivalent in level? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacwjames Posted July 30, 2020 Share Posted July 30, 2020 (edited) The house wiring diagrams for my 2002 Monaco Windsor also show that they apply to the Holiday Rambler Imperial series. Just Sayin Edited July 30, 2020 by jacwjames Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDStew Posted July 30, 2020 Share Posted July 30, 2020 Here's some notes I've been gathering about model comparisons across the Monaco brands. I do know that Monaco would include higher brand features down the line (Camelot got some Dynasty features with new model years). I attached the image of the comparison table. I'm not easily able to paste the table or image of table. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daleleahrv Posted July 31, 2020 Share Posted July 31, 2020 JDStew I have owned both an Executive (2001) and an HR Navigator (2003). I can confirm that they are virtually identical. Not sure about the better woodwork comment, They came off the same assembly line in Coburg OR. (along with the Signature), and I could not tell the difference between woodwork quality on my 2 rigs. Both were Cherry wood. A few items on the wiring diagram referred to options only available on the Signature. (They had to do something to justify the higher price of the Sig.) Thanks for the excellent list. Dale Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
throgmartin Posted July 31, 2020 Share Posted July 31, 2020 Ed: I can tell you without a doubt the Ambassador and Knights are identical. The only difference is in the front and rear caps and interior fabrics and colors. Both - the Ambassadors and Knights shared the same exact floor plans, same engine, tranny, RR8R chassis, interior appointments, awnings, slide topper assemblies, etc. and options. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blahargoue Posted July 31, 2020 Share Posted July 31, 2020 On 7/26/2020 at 3:04 PM, Gary M said: I believe the Ambassador is equal to the Knight. Endeavor and Diplomat are equal. Pretty sure but not positive. Found this on the internet! Only 7 compared to 8 Monaco’s Holiday Rambler Pecking Order Navigator Imperial Scepter Endeavor SE Endeavor Ambassador Neptune Monaco Pecking Order Signature Executive Dynasty Windsor Camelot Diplomat Knight Cayman And you can add the Monaco LaPalma and it's equivalent HR Vacationer to the bottom of the list. They had diesel pusher models between 2006 and 2009. Bruce LaHargoue Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacwjames Posted July 31, 2020 Share Posted July 31, 2020 Agree on the woodworking, I think at least the higher end coaches all had comparable quality. The higher end Beavers were unique in the multiple species of wood on the raise panel doors. I do some wood working and the fit and finish on my Windsor is very good. I've got Walnut, really looks good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rudisill99 Posted July 31, 2020 Share Posted July 31, 2020 (edited) 23 hours ago, JDStew said: Here's some notes I've been gathering about model comparisons across the Monaco brands. I do know that Monaco would include higher brand features down the line (Camelot got some Dynasty features with new model years). I attached the image of the comparison table. I'm not easily able to paste the table or image of table. A correction re: Beavers. The Beaver Santiam was the same coach as the Diplomat. The Monterey was somewhere between the Camelot and the Windsor. We were fulltimers in both those Beaver models over the course of 13 years. -- Dave Rudisill Edited July 31, 2020 by rudisill99 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larry H Posted July 31, 2020 Share Posted July 31, 2020 Thanks to all for some really good answers. Have always been curious about this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
throgmartin Posted August 1, 2020 Share Posted August 1, 2020 In regards to the Beavers, once you got into the higher end models, they maintained a few Beaver specific construction techniques that was held over from when they were a stand alone coach brand. One huge difference is The Marquis and Thunder's slide build designs. The higher end Beavers slide construction was much more robust then any of the HR or Monaco models. Their slide bottom corners were properly built and encapsulated and they added a couple extra cross braces in the walls and the floor. Also on the higher end Beavers their use of burl wood designs was amazing. They had some of the best cabinetry in the industry. For some reason, after Monaco bought Beaver they took the high end models and continued building them according to the Beaver construction designs. The lower end models were all transferred over to Monaco build design specs. I can honestly say that if Monaco adopted the Beaver slide design I would be out of business. I cannot remember ever selling a Guardian Plate system for a high end Beaver. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Cruzbill Posted August 1, 2020 Share Posted August 1, 2020 One proud Beaver owner here, glad to see you still have other coaches to work on! One less thing for me to worry about. Oh, and with the Patriot, you could order with or without the 'Thunder' package; in my 2005, that includes an upgrade to a C-13 CAT, 525hp and Allison 4000 tranny. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woodylmiller Posted August 6, 2020 Share Posted August 6, 2020 The woodwork on the Beavers were incredible. 09 Dynasty Regal IV Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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