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Scotty Hutto

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Decided to “upgrade” the discolored and outdated outlets by the table and front passenger side. These originally had a 120v “RV” type receptacle, a phone jack (no longer used or needed), and a 12v outlet. 
 

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You can still purchase these from REV for about $55 - IF you want the exact same thing. 

I decided to see what I could come up with that’s better, so..

1. I changed the 120v outlet to a standard “Decora” type outlet and added a cover on the back for safety.

2. I removed the phone jack and replaced it with a USB outlet. 

3. I 3D printed the new cover so I could make it any color I want (I chose black). 

4. I kept the 12v outlet (for now). 

Heres my design and the finished product:

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Any experience with the combo outlets with built in USB chargers?  Such as:

https://www.amazon.com/dp/product/B07668S975

I was leaning toward the A & C combo version rather than dual A nor dual C as we have both kind of wall warts now.  I have depth room for a standard rework box so I can get rid of the mobile home type plug, but was wondering (and can't seem to find info) about parasite draw with nothing plugged in when we are boondocking.  By the way, I have a Magnum PSW inverter, and it's always on 24x7x365 due to residential fridge and I like to record certain satellite shows.

I was thinking about three, one by couch, one by table, and one by the rear office desk.  On the dash I have a 12v ignition switched dual USB A port for dash cam and TPMS.

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1 hour ago, amphi_sc said:

Any experience with the combo outlets with built in USB chargers?  

I have a couple of those in my coach (dual A - by couch and table). Had them for a year (or two) with no problems. 

update: I’ve read where the parasitic draw from these is about 35mA, but haven’t been able to confirm via the manufacturer spec sheets. 

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23 hours ago, Scotty Hutto said:

Decided to “upgrade” the discolored and outdated outlets by the table and front passenger side. These originally had a 120v “RV” type receptacle, a phone jack (no longer used or needed), and a 12v outlet. 
 

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You can still purchase these from REV for about $55 - IF you want the exact same thing. 

I decided to see what I could come up with that’s better, so..

1. I changed the 120v outlet to a standard “Decora” type outlet and added a cover on the back for safety.

2. I removed the phone jack and replaced it with a USB outlet. 

3. I 3D printed the new cover so I could make it any color I want (I chose black). 

4. I kept the 12v outlet (for now). 

Heres my design and the finished product:

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Nice mod. How did you attach blue cover? Is it easily removable if you need access to the 120v outlet?

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52 minutes ago, 1nolaguy said:

Nice mod. How did you attach blue cover? Is it easily removable if you need access to the 120v outlet?

I slipped it on the Romex, connected the outlet, attached the blue protective box to the Decora outlet using the screws provided.  I used slightly longer-than-normal (1/2”) screws to then attach the outlet to the faceplate. 

I had to trim the “ears” off the box to keep from blocking the screws used to mount the faceplate to the wall. 

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Nice work on the outlet! Get's me more interested in a 3D printer. 

I went through my unit a while back and wired in outlets in all the compartments underneath. I then took out all the GFCI's as they tended to cause problems and replaced them with standard outlets. Couldn't be happier and now I have power everywhere. I also replaced one of the internal outlets with one that has USB ports and a quick charger built in for my phone. These are all easy and cheap things to do and they make such a big difference. 

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Scotty, are you and Paul just trying to impress us with this "Star Wars" 3D printing mumbo-jumbo?  Can you 3D print a LH-to-RH SAE-to-inverted flare adapter for my RH rigamastratus link with simultaneous-co-angular multi-axial 5G Ethernet/WiFi-enabled co-modulator, so that I can adjust my road-axis angularity real-time, using only the home screen on my flip-phone (which I bought from Dave Pratt)?

😄

See you at the Gathering!

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34 minutes ago, vanwill52 said:

Scotty, are you and Paul just trying to impress us with this "Star Wars" 3D printing mumbo-jumbo?  Can you 3D print a LH-to-RH SAE-to-inverted flare adapter for my RH rigamastratus link with simultaneous-co-angular multi-axial 5G Ethernet/WiFi-enabled co-modulator, so that I can adjust my road-axis angularity real-time, using only the home screen on my flip-phone (which I bought from Dave Pratt)?

😄

See you at the Gathering!

Nah. This group’s pretty tough - hard to impress.  But if you’ll get us a complete set of un-patented design drawings, I’m sure Paul can whip one out. 

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On 2/2/2022 at 7:57 AM, Scotty Hutto said:

I have a couple of those in my coach (dual A - by couch and table). Had them for a year (or two) with no problems. 

update: I’ve read where the parasitic draw from these is about 35mA, but haven’t been able to confirm via the manufacturer spec sheets. 

If I am considering upgrading 3 outlets in the coach, it would cost me about 28 AH a day from my battery bank.  Is my math right?  .035 (amps) x 3 (outlets) x 10 ( 12v to 120v) / 90% (Magnum inverter efficiency) x 24 (hours) = 28 AH.  So consuming about 4 or 5 "realtime" amps from my solar charging amps on a sunny day?  (Considering hours of daylight, solar converter efficiency, etc) The parasitic draw seems "expensive" so I must be thinking incorrectly somewhere but where?

On 2/4/2022 at 7:07 AM, vanwill52 said:

Can you 3D print a LH-to-RH SAE-to-inverted flare adapter for my RH rigamastratus link with simultaneous-co-angular multi-axial 5G Ethernet/WiFi-enabled ...

Voice enabled too?  "Tea, Earl Grey, hot" 

 😉https://youtu.be/iaAT6-dY1QI

 

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