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We discussed a diesel shortage last May on this forum and I kinda put it out of my mind until yesterday. I went to fill up and I was told I could only buy 100 gal.  I read an article where we are down to a small amount in the whole country. Something like 30 days supply.  With winter coming and my main source of heat will be diesel.......this is kinda scary. Is anyone else seeing problems with rationing or finding diesel?

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The Strategic Oil inventory is reported to be down to a 30 day supply.  This is low based on historical levels.  Discussions can turn south pretty quickly when talking about this.  So I ain't going there.

But there seems to be a decent supply in E TN if you can afford it.  I need to go fill up my coach but waiting to see if prices will go down.  I monitor commodity prices daily, it doesn't take much to send the price up and it takes a long time for it to come back down.  Diesel is staying high and not coming down compared to gas.

 

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I was just going to post something on this and found this string. I just started following this "shortage." We are planning a trip to Georgia in December and I'm not super keen on getting stuck up there. I see the posts here that there's "not shortage in Florida" (where we also live) but how can we know? With the wackiness that's been happening, might we end up at the pump someday only to find out they're out? 

There's a place near us in Lutz that has the cheapest gas around. They also have diesel. For no other reason other than the owner is trying to help people, his prices are 30-40 cents  less than anywhere else, including the Walmart that's right down the street. They put bags over the pump handles when they're out. (and that's every week) They do get refilled though. I went in there on Saturday and saw people pumping gas WITH the bags on the handles. I waited until a lady filled up. She pulled away as another older lady pulled up. When I went to the pump, it said "out of fuel." So I started to head in to the store. I asked the lady on her way out to her car, if they were pumping gas today. She said something like if I asked, they'd let me have some gas. So I went in to ask the owner. He told me that they were down to 100 gallons and he was saving that for the little old ladies and then walked away. 

When that last fuel scare happened, (I think that was 2020 or 2021) all the places around here were out. I was at a local gas station to get fuel for the lawn equpment and witnessed a fight. People get stupid when their routines are messed up. Well, they get stupid for lots of reasons, but we will get to a point where this will become the norm. Probably sooner than later. I hope y'all continue this string and keep people updated. 

Maybe someone should list the fuel apps they use. The only one I'm familar with is GasBuddy. 

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Driving on i10 yesterday to New Orleans I saw diesel at $5.29 at a Loves. Price has risen. 

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Yup and yesterday and today Shell, Exon and Mobil reported record earnings. 

I went back and looked at historical info and in the past diesel and premium gas were the same price.  Now diesel is +~$1 more per gallon.

Read another article that said diesel will be in short supply as long as the economy is booming.  

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Last evening, I was watching Tucker Carlson Tonight who had a segment on this very topic.

Whether the shortage is real or not it is certainly a VERY scary thought especially if it does happen in less than one month.

The entire country will come to a halt as millions of commercial truckers will no longer be able to deliver the products that US consumers rely on every day.

Tucker Carlson: The US is about to run out of diesel fuel - YouTube

 

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Most people don't realize how much we depend on trucks. Everything we consume is delivered in some way by a truck. I'm not against the whole renewable energy movement but we rely on diesel too much to just turn the spigot off. 

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On 10/26/2022 at 2:47 PM, Flyinhy said:

We discussed a diesel shortage last May on this forum and I kinda put it out of my mind until yesterday. I went to fill up and I was told I could only buy 100 gal.  I read an article where we are down to a small amount in the whole country. Something like 30 days supply.  With winter coming and my main source of heat will be diesel.......this is kinda scary. Is anyone else seeing problems with rationing or finding diesel?

Just traveled over 1,000 miles no problem getting Diesel I carry 150 gallons and always fuel when at 1/2 tank just to be on the safe side. This trip we ended on a two lane road with road construction and was stopped cold  30 minutes waiting for a pilot car so be careful and always fuel early.

On 10/26/2022 at 2:59 PM, CMillet86 said:

If I remember correctly the US has carried a 25-30 day supply of diesel for the last 10+ years. It’s just become a talking point for worthless politicians.

You are so correct the polications are trying to scare everyone don't listen to them and stay clear of the fake new stories

On 10/27/2022 at 6:07 AM, Russell said:

I was just going to post something on this and found this string. I just started following this "shortage." We are planning a trip to Georgia in December and I'm not super keen on getting stuck up there. I see the posts here that there's "not shortage in Florida" (where we also live) but how can we know? With the wackiness that's been happening, might we end up at the pump someday only to find out they're out? 

There's a place near us in Lutz that has the cheapest gas around. They also have diesel. For no other reason other than the owner is trying to help people, his prices are 30-40 cents  less than anywhere else, including the Walmart that's right down the street. They put bags over the pump handles when they're out. (and that's every week) They do get refilled though. I went in there on Saturday and saw people pumping gas WITH the bags on the handles. I waited until a lady filled up. She pulled away as another older lady pulled up. When I went to the pump, it said "out of fuel." So I started to head in to the store. I asked the lady on her way out to her car, if they were pumping gas today. She said something like if I asked, they'd let me have some gas. So I went in to ask the owner. He told me that they were down to 100 gallons and he was saving that for the little old ladies and then walked away. 

When that last fuel scare happened, (I think that was 2020 or 2021) all the places around here were out. I was at a local gas station to get fuel for the lawn equpment and witnessed a fight. People get stupid when their routines are messed up. Well, they get stupid for lots of reasons, but we will get to a point where this will become the norm. Probably sooner than later. I hope y'all continue this string and keep people updated. 

Maybe someone should list the fuel apps they use. The only one I'm familar with is GasBuddy. 

You should be fine always fuel when you are close to 1/2 tank I carry 150 gallons and always fuel at 1/2 to 3/4 tank yes some say I fuel to soon but at 150 gallons I can travel 1,000 miles which will get me home from where I am. We have not had any fuel shortage on the west coast and I try to fuel at the Indian casino's where fuel is cheaper 

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I passed it off as fear mongering till I read this story. Evidently some pockets in the Southeast are being hit. I was headed to Michigan but had to turn around at the GA line and cancel my vacation trip because of business. I am beginning to think I will never get a relaxing vacation......LOL...

Ironically, I stopped for fuel just below the GA State line and all the truckers at the fuel island were complaining because of the pumps running real slow. It took 25 minutes for me to pump 58 gallons of diesel at the truckers island. The trucker that was parked next to me had her pump running for 20 minutes or so and only 50 gallons was dispensed. Her comment ? " I don't get paid by the hour. I get paid by the trip. This is nuts ". No idea if this was an issue just at this particular Love's or if they were trying to limit sales. Typically the fuel island pumps run extremely fast. I can normally fill up and be gone quickly. I got further down the road at another truck stop to park for the night because of a bad storm that blew in and the truckers there were backed up at the pumps and taking forever to get filled. No idea what is going on. It seems they would realize truckers will fill up completely despite how long it takes.

BTW, the price of fuel was a wallet killer, even with my EDS fuel card. Another big hit came when I filled the propane tank. Good Lord. $ 108 for 22 gals. That is the most I have ever paid for propane in my lifetime.

https://www.foxbusiness.com/politics/fuel-company-issues-diesel-shortage-warning-says-conditions-rapidly-devolving

 

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I fueled up 7 times in the last 5 weeks (9/16 - 10/25) in GA & AL.   One Love's was in the mix with T/A and Speedway filling out the list.  No problems in flow rate or availability. 

Sorry about having to turn around Chris.  I'm hoping there's a customer that was totally appreciative.

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1 hour ago, throgmartin said:

I passed it off as fear mongering till I read this story. Evidently some pockets in the Southeast are being hit. I was headed to Michigan but had to turn around at the GA line and cancel my vacation trip because of business. I am beginning to think I will never get a relaxing vacation......LOL...

Ironically, I stopped for fuel just below the GA State line and all the truckers at the fuel island were complaining because of the pumps running real slow. It took 25 minutes for me to pump 58 gallons of diesel at the truckers island. The trucker that was parked next to me had her pump running for 20 minutes or so and only 50 gallons was dispensed. Her comment ? " I don't get paid by the hour. I get paid by the trip. This is nuts ". No idea if this was an issue just at this particular Love's or if they were trying to limit sales. Typically the fuel island pumps run extremely fast. I can normally fill up and be gone quickly. I got further down the road at another truck stop to park for the night because of a bad storm that blew in and the truckers there were backed up at the pumps and taking forever to get filled. No idea what is going on. It seems they would realize truckers will fill up completely despite how long it takes.

BTW, the price of fuel was a wallet killer, even with my EDS fuel card. Another big hit came when I filled the propane tank. Good Lord. $ 108 for 22 gals. That is the most I have ever paid for propane in my lifetime.

https://www.foxbusiness.com/politics/fuel-company-issues-diesel-shortage-warning-says-conditions-rapidly-devolving

 

You're scaring me, I'd hate to be trapped up north all winter due to a lack of being able to get fuel.

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On 10/30/2022 at 9:28 AM, throgmartin said:

I passed it off as fear mongering till I read this story. Evidently some pockets in the Southeast are being hit. I was headed to Michigan but had to turn around at the GA line and cancel my vacation trip because of business. I am beginning to think I will never get a relaxing vacation......LOL...

Ironically, I stopped for fuel just below the GA State line and all the truckers at the fuel island were complaining because of the pumps running real slow. It took 25 minutes for me to pump 58 gallons of diesel at the truckers island. The trucker that was parked next to me had her pump running for 20 minutes or so and only 50 gallons was dispensed. Her comment ? " I don't get paid by the hour. I get paid by the trip. This is nuts ". No idea if this was an issue just at this particular Love's or if they were trying to limit sales. Typically the fuel island pumps run extremely fast. I can normally fill up and be gone quickly. I got further down the road at another truck stop to park for the night because of a bad storm that blew in and the truckers there were backed up at the pumps and taking forever to get filled. No idea what is going on. It seems they would realize truckers will fill up completely despite how long it takes.

BTW, the price of fuel was a wallet killer, even with my EDS fuel card. Another big hit came when I filled the propane tank. Good Lord. $ 108 for 22 gals. That is the most I have ever paid for propane in my lifetime.

https://www.foxbusiness.com/politics/fuel-company-issues-diesel-shortage-warning-says-conditions-rapidly-devolving

 

I just read that the current dude in charge is getting ready to add to the diesel reserves at $80 per barrell. Same piece talked about how the blocked the last dude in charge when he tried to add at $24 per barrell. Most of the real information doesn't hit the news. You have to go and dig. I urge everyone to please vote next week. 

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