thompson_skip Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 I’m cleaning my 4 6volt house batteries on our great 2003 Dyansty. The bearings on the roll out tray are broken. I’m looking for a new tray. Any ideas where I can find one? Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marine Boy Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 Made by MORryde. Different sizes are available. Amazon or many supply companies have them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivan K Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 Isn't it easier to just replace the bearings and not worry about fitment? Or is the whole tray just eaten up beyond repair. I fixed ours but it may not be the same. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jdw12345 Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 Hoping this will help! https://www.etrailer.com/Accessories-and-Parts/Kwikee/LC366328.html?feed=npn&utm_source=google&utm_medium=cpc&utm_campaign=Google | Smart Shopping - Accessories and Parts - Low Margin&adgroupid=99976847237&campaignid=9818208904&creative=430392848360&device=c&devicemodel=&feeditemid=&keyword=&loc_interest_ms=&loc_physical_ms=9020173&matchtype=&network=u&placement=&position=&gclid=Cj0KCQiAi9mPBhCJARIsAHchl1zIhaXOBzFU80q3K2IQrtADqGXJRAL5pw4_aWL74W6EpZ_NEHKPgywaAmktEALw_wcB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thompson_skip Posted January 31 Author Share Posted January 31 4 hours ago, Ivan K said: Isn't it easier to just replace the bearings and not worry about fitment? Or is the whole tray just eaten up beyond repair. I fixed ours but it may not be the same. It is the rollers, one side won’t come out all the way. The other side has come out of the track and the bearings have fallen out. I’m have trouble finding the right side tray so I may need to rebuild my tray. Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rikadoo Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 All the years i worked on Trucks that had slide trays the ones with bearings always seemed to have the frozen bearings, where as the ones with the plastic slides just seem to rot out from acid. Over the years i started to understand that when a battery begins to start “gassing” that the vapor would gather on the top of it then that collected dust, so if you took a DVOM and touch one terminl to the POS terminil then drag the other lead of the DVOM across the battery you can see voltage. Its my opinion that once that voltage gets on the tray then its seeking a path to ground… thru the bearings. Which doesnt take long to etch and destroy the bearings surface then failure is eminent, there kind of like the sacrifice for the tray itself. Then for the ones with “slides” that acidic contact has nowhere to go so now the entire tray becomes the sacrifice. Please note this is just my opinion, with no science to back it up just years of trial an error of trying to fix a inherant issue that has plauged fleet shops for ever. Even with “sealed or AGMs” though they dont have gassing they do get dust an dirt that mixed with moisture will an do make a connection from battery posts to ground, all this morning coffee Philosophy leads me to look forward to the day we can power our coaches with dilithium crystals😜🤪😂 HAPPY MONDAY everyone😎 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thompson_skip Posted January 31 Author Share Posted January 31 Thanks so much for your insight and I look forward to that form of power. “Live Long and Prosper” 😬😬😬 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wamcneil Posted February 3 Share Posted February 3 On 1/30/2022 at 2:48 PM, Ivan K said: Isn't it easier to just replace the bearings and not worry about fitment? Or is the whole tray just eaten up beyond repair. I fixed ours but it may not be the same. Yeah. I haven't scrutinized my battery tray, but I bet it's just a super-heavy duty set of industrial drawer slides in there that could be replaced. At one point I was considering adding a 2nd tray above my 4xGC batteries. Couldn't find a standard size tray that was the same size. Cheers Walter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jdw12345 Posted February 4 Share Posted February 4 Is this what you are looking for? https://www.rvupgradestore.com/Kwikee-Heavy-Duty-22-Slide-Assembly-p/92-6933.htm?gclid=CjwKCAiAl-6PBhBCEiwAc2GOVPocMOc75sKs3pwR1TxUW34J_Xgks03W5XnJxGyYST_SV_1-Z_ijoBoCDVMQAvD_BwE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thompson_skip Posted February 4 Author Share Posted February 4 Looks like these would work to let replace the broken ones on my current batty tray. Thanks so much for the link. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul A. Posted February 4 Share Posted February 4 On 2/3/2022 at 8:49 AM, wamcneil said: Yeah. I haven't scrutinized my battery tray, but I bet it's just a super-heavy duty set of industrial drawer slides in there that could be replaced. At one point I was considering adding a 2nd tray above my 4xGC batteries. Couldn't find a standard size tray that was the same size. Cheers Walter Sheet metal shop should be able to make a tray for 40-60$. Easy peassy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thompson_skip Posted February 4 Author Share Posted February 4 I will check into having a shop make me a tray if I can’t rebuild my tray. Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
veraken Posted February 5 Share Posted February 5 This is what a used to replace the slides on my battery tray https://www.cabinetparts.com/p/accuride-drawer-slides-side-mount-drawer-slides-AC930122-p241 and https://www.cabinetparts.com/p/accuride-drawer-slides-side-mount-drawer-slides-AC418022-p255 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thompson_skip Posted February 5 Author Share Posted February 5 Thanks so much for the links. Looks like they are what I will need. 😀 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thompson_skip Posted July 18 Author Share Posted July 18 Thanks to all that replied with your suggestions. I have rebuilt my slide tray using a pair of VEVOR 500lb drawer slides. Amazon about $35.00. I think the rebuild should last the life of our great 2003 Dyansty we purchased new in 2003😁😁. Here is the link for the slides. I used stainless nylon nuts and stainless bolts to attach the slides to the drawer. https://smile.amazon.com/gp/product/B091T1CZD6/ref=ppx_od_dt_b_asin_title_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rikadoo Posted July 19 Share Posted July 19 Very nice👍 I would add 1 thing, install one or two ground straps from the top tray that holds the batteries to a good ground below the slide. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
6Wheels Posted July 20 Share Posted July 20 Maybe a braided grounding strap would carry the leaking current away from the rollers and eliminate the damage. Connect from the tray to ground on the battery. Amazon.com : braided grounding strap Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chargerman Posted July 20 Share Posted July 20 I painted my trays with POR-15. Great product. Neutralizes the rust and puts on a very rugged coating. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike H Posted July 20 Share Posted July 20 On 2/3/2022 at 8:51 PM, Jdw12345 said: Is this what you are looking for? https://www.rvupgradestore.com/Kwikee-Heavy-Duty-22-Slide-Assembly-p/92-6933.htm?gclid=CjwKCAiAl-6PBhBCEiwAc2GOVPocMOc75sKs3pwR1TxUW34J_Xgks03W5XnJxGyYST_SV_1-Z_ijoBoCDVMQAvD_BwE I see it's only rated for 200 pounds. That might be a little light for 4 batteries. My 6v Duracell AGM's at 70 lbs each. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Cherry Posted July 20 Share Posted July 20 1 hour ago, Chargerman said: I painted my trays with POR-15. Great product. Neutralizes the rust and puts on a very rugged coating. That, from a lot of reading and past comments, be the Daddy Rabbit, of preferred coatings for a MH battery tray. However, the 3 or 4 coats of Rustoleum PU bed liner paint is working well on mine, which I refurbished in 2013. BUT THE BEST CORROSION PROTECTION is ELIMINATION. Don’t overfill the cells. Use a dipstick or Trojan “card”. Install the Battery Miser caps that prevent misting or spewing out of electrolyte. They also lengthen battery life as they cut down on 90% of the evaporation during charging. That is probably why my “paint” job has lasted so well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thompson_skip Posted July 20 Author Share Posted July 20 Tom, where do you get the items you mentioned? I have thought I’m over filling but never knew of a way to check. I did paint my box with Rustoleum, picture doesn’t look like it as it has dust on it😀. Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Cherry Posted July 20 Share Posted July 20 47 minutes ago, thompson_skip said: Tom, where do you get the items you mentioned? I have thought I’m over filling but never knew of a way to check. I did paint my box with Rustoleum, picture doesn’t look like it as it has dust on it😀. Thanks Find a hardwood (or pine) dowel about 3/8" Dia. I cut mine about 6" long. Put the dowel into the battery and let it seat or sit or rest on the plates. Mark the "top" of the cell wall on the dowel. That is a "reference" dimension. If you measure DOWN from whatever surface you used to the bottom of the well, then that is, theoretically, the OVERFILL Mark. What you are trying to get is the distance from the bottom of the fill well to the top of the plates. Trojan handed out plastic "gages" at an RV show, but I can't get them to send me one. Once you know the distance from the bottom of the well to the top of the plates, then you "HALVE THAT". I added about 1/8" just for a little margin. I then scribed a line onto the dowel at the "Fill Plus" dimension. I then cut a small groove into the dowel, all away round the perimeter or circumference. I then insert the dowel and BINGO....have a dip stick. I add DI water to the Electrolyte....Kentucky Windage from a small squirt bottle. I use a paper towel, as it is disposable and the acid eats holes, to wipe "semi dry" the electrolyte and remeasure. BINGO...a perfect fill. I have been doing this since I refurbished the trays. I store the stick inside the plastic pouch that came with the Specific Gravity Meter that I got from Amazon... It is VERY accurate, assuming you are careful using the bulb and also getting the fill volume to the "fill line" at the top...and hold it vertical. My SP measurements now correlate with the Voltage readings for the SOC. So, I know how the cells are....or the condition. Look on Amazon for Battery Miser Caps. You want the Medium sized... Now I am using Flooded Cells and my Vette DOES have a Buggy Whip bracket....Don't ask me about AGM's. Trojan says they have "flooded" AGM's and that you maintain them....same as wet cell flooded. BTW...for what it's worth...I have not had any corrosion and I, semi annually, drain down my Trojan's 2 - 3 times to around 50% to keep them exercised. I rarely, and others report this also, add more than maybe 3/16" of DI water to the cells as the Miser Caps are like a mini distillation tower and the electrolyte runs back down in instead of being vented. Good Luck... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thompson_skip Posted July 20 Author Share Posted July 20 Thanks Tom I will have a project as soon as I figure out why I don’t have any 12v in the coach. 😤😤 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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