MHRookie Posted December 25, 2020 Share Posted December 25, 2020 I’d like your feedback.... I have centramatics installed on each axle AND each wheel/tire balanced w/weights. Do you other centramatic users do the same or rely totally on them for balancing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Haggard Posted December 25, 2020 Share Posted December 25, 2020 We have never balanced coach or semi tractor tires Never had uneven wear. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
63Hotrod Posted December 25, 2020 Share Posted December 25, 2020 We added centramatics this year and did Not balance front or rear. No problem nice and smooth. Bill 08 Endeavor 99 Endeavor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivan K Posted December 26, 2020 Share Posted December 26, 2020 Balance masters on the front, same as centramatics and no wheel balancing needed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr4Film Posted December 26, 2020 Share Posted December 26, 2020 Balance Masters on the rear dualies, Dyna Beads in the steer tires. When the steers need to replaced again they will have a set of Balance Masters installed also. When the rears were replaced the cost for a set of Dyna Beads plus shipping would have been $125. The set of Balance Masters from Josam's in Orlando was $220 installed so that was a no brainer to go with the Balance Masters for less than $100 more. The Balance Masters are lifetime and can be switched to other coaches whereas the Dyan Beads need to be replaced eventually. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Haggard Posted December 26, 2020 Share Posted December 26, 2020 1 hour ago, Dr4Film said: Balance Masters on the rear dualies, Dyna Beads in the steer tires. When the steers need to replaced again they will have a set of Balance Masters installed also. When the rears were replaced the cost for a set of Dyna Beads plus shipping would have been $125. The set of Balance Masters from Josam's in Orlando was $220 installed so that was a no brainer to go with the Balance Masters for less than $100 more. The Balance Masters are lifetime and can be switched to other coaches whereas the Dyan Beads need to be replaced eventually. Josam's always treat you good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mel S - '96 Safari Posted December 26, 2020 Share Posted December 26, 2020 (edited) 5 hours ago, Dr4Film said: Both Centramatics and Balance Masters are lifetime ... I've had the same Centramatics, (front and rear), since 2001. They're currently on the 3rd set of tires. Edited December 26, 2020 by Mel S - '96 Safari spelling Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
96 EVO Posted December 26, 2020 Share Posted December 26, 2020 I've always had mine spun balanced, then weights added. Here's a head scratcher ! Had my steers replaced while traveling thru Or. Can recall see'ing at least one of the new tires yellow dot on the sidewall, lined up perfectly with the valve stem after the wheels were mounted on the coach. Headed down the road right after the tire change. At a rest stop a few hours later, I notice neither new tire has the yellow dot closer than 6" from the valve stem! No hard braking happened during the drive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hex_nut Posted December 26, 2020 Share Posted December 26, 2020 I have had a speed related vibration issue ever since I put on new tires (Toyo 295/80r22.5). I have a set of Centramatic balancers, so I did NOT have them spin balanced. Because of the vibration issue, I finally took it back to the dealer and had the tires spin balanced. One of the rear inner tires would have required over a pound of lead weights to bring it into balance (I replaced the tire). If I would have had the tires initially balanced, it would have saved me a lot of trouble and headache as I could have rejected that tire initially. There is no way the Centramatic balancers could compensate for that much off balance in a tire. So, lesson learned. The next time I replace tires, I will have them spin balanced if for no other reason than to verify that they are all within reasonable tolerances. Richard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivan K Posted December 26, 2020 Share Posted December 26, 2020 46 minutes ago, 96 EVO said: I've always had mine spun balanced, then weights added. Here's a head scratcher ! Had my steers replaced while traveling thru Or. Can recall see'ing at least one of the new tires yellow dot on the sidewall, lined up perfectly with the valve stem after the wheels were mounted on the coach. Headed down the road right after the tire change. At a rest stop a few hours later, I notice neither new tire has the yellow dot closer than 6" from the valve stem! No hard braking happened during the drive. Here is a way to stop it if you have a heavy foot. Just a joke, don't do it! LOL 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ktloah Posted December 27, 2020 Share Posted December 27, 2020 I use the balance beads, never had a problem...running toyo 144's on an 04 Dynasty Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dl_racing427 Posted December 27, 2020 Share Posted December 27, 2020 On 12/26/2020 at 1:50 PM, 96 EVO said: I've always had mine spun balanced, then weights added. Here's a head scratcher ! Had my steers replaced while traveling thru Or. Can recall see'ing at least one of the new tires yellow dot on the sidewall, lined up perfectly with the valve stem after the wheels were mounted on the coach. Headed down the road right after the tire change. At a rest stop a few hours later, I notice neither new tire has the yellow dot closer than 6" from the valve stem! No hard braking happened during the drive. This happens on my higher powered street cars, mostly on the rears. It also happens on my race car, both front and rear, though in opposite directions. I mark the tires at the stem, and re-balance whenever they've moved more than an inch or so. I'm surprised to see that on a coach. It could be related to the tire mounting lubricant not being dried yet. Mark them and keep an eye on it to see if they stop moving. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
96 EVO Posted December 27, 2020 Share Posted December 27, 2020 2 hours ago, dl_racing427 said: I'm surprised to see that on a coach. It could be related to the tire mounting lubricant not being dried yet. This was the only thing I could come up with as well! I could see it 'possibly' happening if I had made a real hard panic stop, but that didn't happen. 115psi in the front tires, you would think would hold the bead firmly in place! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hotrod - R.I.P. Posted December 28, 2020 Share Posted December 28, 2020 On 12/25/2020 at 2:52 PM, MHRookie said: I’d like your feedback.... I have centramatics installed on each axle AND each wheel/tire balanced w/weights. Do you other centramatic users do the same or rely totally on them for balancing? I rely on my balance masters totally. The instructions tell you to remove any weights when you put on the disks. If you spend the money to balance them and then use the disks you are wasting money. I’m not sure why you would put disks one tires that are already balanced ? bill g 06 dynasty 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Nodine Posted December 28, 2020 Share Posted December 28, 2020 1 hour ago, Hotrod said: I rely on my balance masters totally. The instructions tell you to remove any weights when you put on the disks. If you spend the money to balance them and then use the disks you are wasting money. I’m not sure why you would put disks one tires that are already balanced ? bill g 06 dynasty Up a little early there Bill. Of course who am I to talk since we are only one hour ahead of you.🙂 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Haggard Posted December 28, 2020 Share Posted December 28, 2020 Good morning all. I dont know for certain? But we have always purchased high quality truck tires for our semis and rv's . Ive never run rv specific tires. Maybe thats why we never had to balance them. I think in 50 years Michelin replaced 1 tire that was out of specs. some years we buy 40 to 50 new truck tires. so far, no vibrations, no uneven ware. we do spend $$$s and time to maintain the chassis, drive trains. Its 55 here in the Daytona beach area this Monday am. It was 50 at 4:30 when we made coffee. The poor puppy still loves the heated tile floors. Our daughter and 3 grandchildren are flying in from Columbus Ohio today. For a 10 day visit. And much warmer weather. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Ray Davis Posted December 28, 2020 Share Posted December 28, 2020 I knew that tires would slip on the rim/wheel on drag cars but never imagined that they would slip on motorhomes. If they do slip then wouldn't that make a strong case for Balance Masters, Centramatics, or beads? Wouldn't slipping soon upset any balancing with weights while the other 3 methods would never know they slipped and would just rebalance each time as usual? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moonwink Posted December 28, 2020 Share Posted December 28, 2020 (edited) I never got rid of my out of balance vibrations until I had the tires balanced on "Hunter's GSP9700 Road Force Vibration Control System" https://www.hunter.com/wheel-balancers/road-force-elite/#vision In one operation, it tests for out of balance and out of round conditions. I first discovered this machine while reading Ford's TSB covering the 2000 F-53 chassis explaining how to solve out of balance conditions. I believe it's the finest wheel balancer on the market. You can find who has one near you using this website: https://www.hunter.com/find-equipment/? (disclaimer: I have no connection to the company) Edited December 28, 2020 by Moonwink Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MHRookie Posted December 28, 2020 Author Share Posted December 28, 2020 Ok, great info everyone. I guess I’m being to anal about feeling the road while I’m driving. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gjh2916 Posted December 31, 2020 Share Posted December 31, 2020 I have had Centramatics on all 3 axles on coach for the last 6 years, been through a complete tire change and never put weights on tires. Rides smooth as glass going down the road. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
96 EVO Posted December 31, 2020 Share Posted December 31, 2020 56 minutes ago, gjh2916 said: I have had Centramatics on all 3 axles on coach for the last 6 years, been through a complete tire change and never put weights on tires. Rides smooth as glass going down the road. Probably the way to go!! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hardy1000 Posted February 5, 2021 Share Posted February 5, 2021 I have used Dyna Beads in all tires since 2013 and have been very happy with them. I will be getting new tires this summer and will use them again. I have only heard great things about Centramatics. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woodylmiller Posted July 27, 2021 Share Posted July 27, 2021 Concerning the Dynabeads, do you put the beads in every tire? or just the steer tires. From the chart it looks like 12oz per tire. thanks, Woody Miller Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr4Film Posted July 27, 2021 Share Posted July 27, 2021 I had them in all six tires of my Windsor for many years until 2019 when I went to replace the four drive tires I switched over to Balance Masters as the cost was only a little bit more than the Dyna Beads with shipping to my house in Florida. My steers were replaced in 2017 and still have Dyna Beads in them but once they need changing I will have Balance Masters installed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BennieH Posted July 27, 2021 Share Posted July 27, 2021 I put Centramatics on the Front and Dyna beads in the rears when I put tire on 2 years ago. There were Dyna beads in all tires at that time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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